Free Step Dodge

Tenryuga
Tenryuga
your defense should comprise of sidestep, crouch block, fuzzy guard and standing guard. the defensive hold is to be used when you have a read on whats coming but not often due to the risk of giving her HCT damage.
Brute
Brute
There is no best approach when dealing with Rachel. There isn't even a good/decent one other than "never let her start an offense ever." She always has a plethora of good options from each situation where she has advantage and that pressure loops endlessly in a braindead way. If you don't see that as ridiculous, whatever. I'm not going to debate this anymore if for some reason that doesn't sound ridiculous to you.
Brute
Brute
and you know me. I don't attack from disadvantage. Ever. I play a character that does not permit that. I'm used to playing defensively, but playing defensively does not "limit her options" in any reasonable sense as it should.
Tenryuga
Tenryuga
Again im not saying this character is a fair fight. This character is above everybody else in this game imo and requires way too much reading to be done.
Tenryuga
Tenryuga
Maybe limit was the wrong word to use. I'm just saying it makes it so you have just a tad bit less to worry about after she uses stomp. Im not talking about reading her strings. In that situation its do or die.
Tenryuga
Tenryuga
because check it. If im sidestepping and crouch blocking then rachel is encouraged to use her grabs, tracking 4P string or tracking 1P string.
Brute
Brute
That's every situation she puts you in the minute you're at negative frames.
Tenryuga
Tenryuga
she wont go for the options that offer the least success rate
Brute
Brute
"least success rate" most everything she can do, which is a lot, have a good/high chance of success with very, very minimal risk. But whatever. This is going in circles. Believe whatever you want, but giving this BS to other characters is going to make the situation worse, not better.
Tenryuga
Tenryuga
i dont think other characters need this. I just think the cast is weak in comparison to Rachel save for a few characters. As for the success rate thing look at it like this: if you are Rachel and make note of the fact that every time I'm at disadvantage I either step or crouch block would you use linear highs or lows?
Brute
Brute
I don't have to. Again, she has it all. Her strength is not boiled down to one option, regardless how OP it may be. But I'm done discussing this.
Tenryuga
Tenryuga
That's fine though I'm interested in hearing what you would have addressed about this character in a patch.
AkaShocka
AkaShocka
IMO. The only character other than the VF characters that can give Rachel trouble is Christie. I'm not saying that because of her speed (ok at the same time I am) I'm saying it because Christie has pretty much the same tools. Evasive SS, Strings the go low, high mid. Strings that go into a grab etc etc. Rachel is somewhat like Christie just extra weight. But no one is crying about Christie so why cry about Rachel
AkaShocka
AkaShocka
I'm not aiming that at you Tenryuga, I was just saying. Christie is just as "OP" as Rachel is since she pretty much the same tools
Brute
Brute
People do complain about Chrisite.
AkaShocka
AkaShocka
But not like they do Rachel. To be honest, I think Christie is harder to deal with than Rachel. You can out space Rachel easily, but Christie doesn't space. But she she can play the spacing game just as good as anyone Else. Her jak 1kk has reach and she has great low sweeps. she has an evasive move that has reach. Yes a move that evades but has great reach. And her speed..... yea
AkaShocka
AkaShocka
and wait. that evasive reaching move also causes sitdown stun on NH. sure Rachels 8k has reach and causes sitdown stun on NH too, but its slow as hell and it doesn't evade.
Brute
Brute
Christie is not a heavyweight with a braindead forcetech, OHs and NH launches that net big damage.
Tenryuga
Tenryuga
is there a way we can talk about this without having to come back to my status and post? makes things faster
Brute
Brute
That's honestly why I wanted to exit the conversation. The notifications are getting insane.
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