Free Step Dodge

1) Noobs haven't dropped Ayane because she;s more played than the rest of the roster combined
2) If people dropped a character cause they couldn't do all their moves, I would see way way way less Hayates and Ryus. Most Ryus can't even do the Shoho, Izuna holds, ongyoin throw, etc. and don't get me started on the Raijin.

3) Discrepancies between noob and vet Ryus are very discernible and something I do care about/factor into my matches against them prominently.

Ayane is not the most played lol. Its Ryu and Kaspammy's. And noobs not being able to do Ryu's moves lololz. Even if they dont want to do his moves they just spam it out lawl. And when they spam, they go into the ninpo and spam that shit. Characters that noobs cant use their stances properly is Helena, Lisa (except for CAR since its running), Christie, and Pai.

Oh and i forgot. GG Brute! See ya next time. Lawl

^thinks noobs can use ongyoin stance properly.
^thinks Ayane is not most played charatcer on PSN
^thinks Ayane's expert holds are more dissuading than Ryu's

lolol I'm done

0f course they can use his stance properly. I dont know the names of the stances but the one when he teleports, you can press p, k , or T SO HARD! and they one when he kinda bends a little they just hit P or K. Very good these noobs are.

And tell me if noobs can use Pai's bokutai even remotely properly lol. or Helan's bokuho.

Helena's*

Irrelevant. Point is, they can't use ongyoin properly. Not even close. And if you think they are, it probably means you're get snagged by their noobie tactics, in which case lol. If you're not getting snagged by their noobie tactics, you should recognize that they are noobie tactics.

Ugh and i forgot about this -_-. Anyway whatever we have opinions I was just saying that when a noob realizes what does what from his ongyoin im guessing they will try to do other things from it. So that results them into doing all three 3 options from it so they wont get countered. Anyway, back on topic, I cant wait to see all the Marie Rose players. And Anti-Marie Rose tech of course.

>Considers using 3 options from ongyoin as using the stance properly.
lolololololololol

BRUTE! Shutup! Im just trying to win this war lmao. Leave me alone! D:
But isnt only 3 things from it? The punch causing bound, the long kick thing, and the throw?

You can also parry, do a long-range headbutt, do a mid-kick launcher, do a combo throw, do the Shoho Izuna, do a low trip, do an i12 high string that causes a charged GB on final hit, another high punch that's safe and crushes highs, the free/location teleports, etc.

So no, you have lots of options from ongyoin and noobs don't know how/when to use them properly at all

Thats the onygoin? Oooooh. I was talking about the teleport when he goes above you lol

the teleport is just an animation he does before three attacks that he can do from ongyoin stance. The stance itself has many options, most of which are under-utilized.

90% of the Christie Player even dont know she had a stance lol and when comes only Jak pp out or Jak1k2k haha
And the same with the most helena player the just mash without any idea what they doing lol

all noobs use BKO though, even if unintentionally. It's such a great blanket tool they can get away with it at times. frustrating.

Ayane is played a lot. She's on the same level as the Ryu, Kaspammy and that German Osu bitch. I didn't read the wall of text under that statement tho, lol.

Well, they are the free characters. Most people are stuck with the ninjas due to core fighters.

But that happens on xbox, for me.