And wall throws. D: So many times I've been right up against and in a perfect 90° angle to a wall and just get the regular throw
Free Step Dodge
Chapstick
Force_of_Nature
That too. It feels like your being punished for backing your opponent into a corner but not at a complete perfect angle.
Ael
Ayane's BTPP4PP7K turning into P4P due to angles at the walls annoy me so much. I hope TN does fix these issues.
Force_of_Nature
YES, and Ayane's BT7K turning into 7K -_- on angled juggles in corners (with that said, could Ayane's 7K be i13 or i14 instead of frickin' i18? The move is -30 on block so you can't exactly spam it anyway)
Chapstick
That move crushes everything and has an 11f version ):<
Force_of_Nature
I said 7K, not BT7K. Hayate has an i12 7K and an i11 BT7K.
Chapstick
I did mean front turned 7K. "11f version" was referring to BT7K. Hayate isn't as good as Ayane tho
Force_of_Nature
You sure? Hayate's pretty fucking good in 5U. He's at least on a similar level as Ayane, if not better in some ways.
Chapstick
He's good but I really don't think he's on Ayane's level
Force_of_Nature
Why do you say that?
Chapstick
Because Ayane's worst MU's are even and she has the advantage over half the roster. This isn't an Ayane vs Hayate MU thing, it's an Ayane vs the roster and Hayate vs the roster thing.
Yurlungur
hayate's zoning game isn't as good as ayanes. Hayate doesn't even have good keep out tools, get in yes, keep out no.