Free Step Dodge

What do they mean by stronger? Is it 1T? It received 12 more unholdable frames. It's a throw that nobody used other than me and it was fine before.

You got your copy today too huh? awesome! Hopefully when the online freezing issues have settled up we can play a few

^ That would be awesome, @UpSideDownGRUNT ! Also, it seems like people are able to create lobbies and invite friends to their lobby. The freezing issue only occurs when you search for a lobby or a ranked match. So we should be able to play through inviting each other. In case you want to add me, GT is KING JAIMY.

@Corza, the 'easier' obviously refers to the simpler input of her Izuna Falcon, but I'm not sure what they mean by 'stronger'. We should keep in mind that the balance changes are not officially released in English and that these are just 'rough translations'.

I never got to play you on 360 since I diverted to PS3 haha but now I'm on X1 should have some time to play I'll add you a bit later today. Got some serious costume grinding and chaacter training to do

Also, why do you think 1T is so useful? I'm one of those people who never use it, as I rather take the guaranteed damage from 2T.

Haha, likewise. Unfortunately my x360 data was reset so I have to unlock ALL costumes and titles again T_T. That Honoka training is also taking a lot of time lol.

I was talking about the official translation of the balance changes! http://teamninja-studio.com/doa5/lastround/us/info_ver2.00.html

I use 1T-K, P+K for a really quick CB setup. Not many people see it coming. It's such a shame that you can't use this when the opponent is BT, because the Tenku K will whiff.

Does the 1P change mean that it's a force tech now? 1PK was cool, but pro players blocked the kick and throw punished all the time.

Oops. I didn't know the official translations were released already. Anyway, I still don't know what 'stronger' implies.

I used 1K - Tenku K - CB before as well but I'd still not rather be at risk of getting held by the opponent. Plus - if I recall correctly - 2T has less startup frames so it's more consistent as a punish throw.

I will check this evening and report back if 1P force techs. And you're right on the point there: Pro's would tech roll, avoid the 1P and block the kick and then throw punish.

If you want to know anything else about Momiji's changes, just ask because I don't mind checking (because I like examining frame data and move properties).

I have an idea but I'm not sure if it works; since 1T got more unholdable frames, would one or more of Momiji's Tenku options be GUARANTEED as a follow-up?

I really don't want to bother you with this, I have way too many questions. If I'm lucky, then I'll be able to start testing in 10 hours, but if I'm not, then tomorrow at noon. Now that I think about it, if 1P force techs on its own, then my 1PK, 66K "Idareyoutopressabutton" force tech setup no longer works. :'(

I don't know the amount of unholdable frames after her low kick hold, but that one guarantees a PB. If 1T is the same now, then...

Let me guess: 1PK into 66K is an unholdable setup?

Holy fuck 1T into a guaranteed PB would make 1T a lot more useful.

I don't think it is, but 66K is a strong move and beats out pretty much everything. Plus if you do press a button, it becomes a counter hit and I get 44P8PK, 6PKP after it. I loved that setup.

But if they don't press a button and guard, they can throw punish you. ;'(

I only need to try it once, then I'll know what they do after being forced up. The next time I force tech them, I'll run up and throw.