Free Step Dodge

41236T with juggle does more damage and vortex

I'm talking about the 6PP, T, 9P, 6KP juggle that deals 102, just like 4T. The other juggle 3PPP+KT does 4 points more, but I almost never see that.

Then i dont know what Rachel player you are watching XD

Well... same damage PLUS vortex seems a better option than just damage. Just saying.

All of them! Jokes aside, I was just watching SweetRevenge use her and he was going for that juggle a lot. Maybe it's just me, but I hate seeing the same thing over and over.

About the vortex... does anyone still fall for Rachel's stomp?

Not to mention, I've seen people do the same juggle on stages with crackable floors. You can't even finish it on those, because the air throw ruins it. So why go for it? It feels like autopiloting.

@Gehaktbal Facts!! What rachel is he looking at xD and Rachel has set ups that prevent you from punishing her stomp with a throw. Of course you can strike it but that can always be crushed by 1P

You stomp the opponent = you get frame adv.
The opponent tech rolls (you don't attempt the stomp) = you get frame adv.

You are still in a favorable position either way.

You can whiff a stomp and be -1 lol

You can set up the opponent to stay down and eat the stomp,but people who already know what Rachel is capable of,well,they'll get up quickly from the ground,but with limited wake-up options.It's pretty bad once Rachel gets her thing going.

What's wrong with seeing the same thing over and over if it's legit? 41236T has a lot more versatility that 4T. 4T is just used to punish whiffed holds along with changing position. 41236T is for dealing damage plus maintaining momentum and control. As for the stomp, it'll still hit if the opponent doesn't tech at all.