Free Step Dodge

I believe it's a lot easier to take away rights of a marginalized group (esp with a republican president, house, and senate) in this country than it is to create jobs, strengthen the economy, and "make america great again." I know that FADA shit will be put on his desk because they're trying to pass it and legislation like it all the time.

Difference Brute is that the politicians tell you one thing and their agenda is another. Trump on the other hand is a straight shooter and plans to do exactly what he says he'll do and people believe him, which is why they're horrified.

But during his speech this morning he said to all those that were against him that he needed their guidance and help and to come together as a country. So you don't want him to do those things you believe he's going to do. Play your part and help steer america in the right direction.

Leaving the U.S changes literally nothing.

So your argument is basically: "You can't trust what politicians say, but you can trust what Trump says, even though he's now a politician."

Or, maybe he's just as conceited as the rest. His "straight-shooting" isn't a virtue when it forces him to constantly backpedal from his hyperboles.

Obviously he's a politician now because he's the president. It doesn't give him the history of any other politician or attach strings onto his back connecting him to any sort of ongoing agenda which is the general consensus with politicians.

But it doesn't matter, nothing you can tell Hillary supporters will calm the rage and hatred they ironically feel after claiming to be fighting it this entire election.

Guess all I can say is wait and see and maybe the man will surprise you. Everyone wanted to see the good in Hillary and vote for her despite her past but Trump gets elected and he's irredeemable and pure evil.

It's all just one big bottle of hypocrisy.

Personally I didn't like either the candidates but Hilary seemed less threatening, pluus she promised free public college, she's a liar but overall less threatening than DT is.

I don't think it's the "history" so much as the "temperament" (ironically) of the people who seek these positions that makes most of them untrustworthy. Trump certainly hasn't said anything which would suggest he is any different.

Imagine you're in an airplane and to your horror you find an infant in the pilot's seat. The man sitting next to you then says, "Wait and see. Maybe he'll surprise you."

I'm curious why we're not mentioning how Trump is a liar with Hillary popping up again and again with that

That's a gross exaggeration, but since we're doing that here's my version, I'll say you have 2 potential pilots, one is a fresh self taught pilot wet behind the ears trying to get you home, the other is a pilot with 10 years of experience that's flown her passengers to Iraq when the destination was Hawaii. I'm not going to pick her because she looks nicer.

Trump may have a history of lying as all people do to some extent. He didn't compromise national security and get investigated by the FBI... Twice.

He's disrespectful to women, yet Bill has the history he has with women and Hillary not only supported him but mocked the women that stepped forward. We can forgive them but we can look pass Trump's faults.

Your analogy only works because you forgot to mention that the self-taught pilot has never flown a plane before and that he's no more determined to get everyone to the proper destination than the other pilot is. At least the other pilot can land a plane, even if it was in the wrong country.

Your entire defense of Trump seems to be predicated on the idea that he's more trustworthy than the average politician (or at least Hillary), but there is absolutely no reason to believe that.

As far as being trustworthy, people wouldn't be so terrified of Trump if they didn't believe the things he was saying. If he's an infant because he's not a politician I say, good. That's exactly why America elected him.

This is exactly what I was talking about, you can keep talking about how unqualified Trump is to be pres. What you can't tell me is why Hillary would be any better of a president. More experience? So more Bush/Obama? Pass. Because she's made better promises to the people of what she'll do? Oh ok, I definitely believe that.

They wouldn't be so terrified if they didn't believe what he was saying? Trying to navigate the double-negatives, so then they would be terrified if they did believe what he was saying? Well, yeah. That's reason enough to be terrified, considering the things he says. Not sure how that's a defense.

Why would Hillary be better? She hasn't suggested building a puerile wall to fix an imaginary problem. She hasn't suggested banning all Muslims from entering the country. Oh, and my personal favorite, she isn't glorifying the idea of assassinating the children and families of suspected terrorists.

My defense of trump isn't predicated on his trustworthiness. It's on the fact that he's going to change things because he hates them (not because it sounds good to voters) and Hilary is more of the same or worse. And contrary to Clinton supporters everything that comes out of his mouth isn't bad (economy,jobs,veterans,etc)

If you listened to his speech you'd know he recognizes the huge responsibility and acknowledged his past words saying he would seek partnership with neighboring countries over conflict. He's said outlandish things but as president he has to conduct himself differently and it seems he's trying to do that.