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I forgot to throw in SS-ing the 9T, thanks for telling me that. I'm pretty sure most people playing Rachel with common sense wouldn't challenge anything with good plus frames on block; she doesn't have a high priority move that beats other moves out that often. So IMO if I'm doing Rachel vs...

Battle for DOUBLE D Tier Rachel vs Tina 5-5 This is actually one of Rachel's better MUs, so these games are usually even in playstyles, accurate punish-hold trade-off, and they're always pretty fun to boot. They have very similar frames ('cause Rachel was assumed to be a blend if Tina and...

Rachel vs Lisa (4-6... possibly 5-5) Rachel struggles immensely when it comes to fighting Lisa; 12i mids, great spacing and getaway tools, and a shitload of offensive holds that are able to crush Rachel's abundance of mids and highs. One weird occurrence, however, I grabbed a Lisa's 9T in midair...

Rachel is Going to the Circus Rachel vs Lisa (4-6... possibly 5-5) Rachel CAN struggle immensely when it comes to fighting Lisa; 12i mids, great spacing and getaway tools, and a shitload of offensive holds that are able to crush Rachel's abundance of mids and highs. One weird occurrence...

Okay... why are all of the Rachel threads kinda... dead?

ATTENTION ALL RACHEL PLAYERS! Please check out the Rachel guide thread and give your feedback (even if you disagree with vINv's opinions.)

Rachel's Dickwad Tick throw set ups Free cancel jab strings to see how ppl react (P FC P FC 6P or 6T) As everyone should know 6PK or 6K on NH usually gets you a free grab set up, so throw in mids after jab FCs If they start reacting to jabs by ducking, 3T. If you hit with 3T and they respect...

THE Rachel strat: You have to be better and smarter than EVERYONE to win anything... lol (i wish i was joking *sob*)

you... you're the hatemail rachel... why?

The stomp is fully reactable offline as i have stated before, so many people (if they're good) will watch for your stomp tendencies and if you don't have any, they put themselves into the blender themselves, or get blown up with Hi-Counter from doing reactable wakeup kicks... IMO you can play...

Someone actually thinks I'm scary on this game!? WTF

It shouldn't be that long... How to play Rachel: Just learn the frames on everything in the game (so you can parry and punish effectively) Use Step 1 95% of the time PK a lot Don't forget Step 2 Bounce combos (unless you get a CB) Use SDS for grabs and resets Don't forget Step 2 Don't let the...

I personally don't use 4PPP (,or anything else that gets blown up offline since the patch) but I guess I got proven wrong on CB combos, but I'm not talking about trying to work SDS. I'm talking about breaking stun threshold with a SDS move... that's why I use PP4P (like I said before...

If you want, you can just CB into a bounce... It's not that the bonce combos are just some crazy strat or anything, it's just that the bounce combos do more damage on NH than many of her launch combos do on Hi-Counter...

You don't really go for "launches" anymore, because she actually gets shitloads of damage off of her "bounces"; trying to use SDS beyond the stun threshold will result in a bounce animation... from the bounce animation you can do 236P+K*T for like an extra 40 damage. These are the combos that...

I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying, BUT Rachel's hold damage is really good unless you're gonna compare her Bayman. Any of her holds on counter or hi-counter give off anywhere from 70-90 damage... And besides she was low tier before the nerfs, it's just way easier to expose that now...

She wasn't good to begin with TBH... she just had absurdly good, absurdly abusable, absurdly braindead offense... and everything else (spacing, tracking, defense, grappler-type damage)... meh

That is what I originally thought too, but after labbing with the character enough, it can't effectively crush lows unless it's a standalone low or a low string starter, and also if you look closely at when the "crush" frames activate, 3T doesn't beat out lows until later into the animation...

Yeah... that's how we should go about trying to improve the community...

When i get more experienced at the game, and perfect my new Rachel tech, I'll post a Rachel guide for anyone still needing help with Rachel... That is much easier said than done 'cause sadly, I'm pretty bad at the game lol.