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Yes yes I was just trying to explain the utility of the -1 guard breaks and why they can't be +frames.

Well with lion's -1 I'm safe, so I'm able to sidestep after the gb and get a stun after. This makes people try to throw punish after the guard break which let's me just start getting full combos or even beating them out if they try a slow tracking move after my guard break. So yeah they cans be...

There's a a handful of good ones on psn if you have a ps3 to play on. I personally dropped her and picked up Zack xP.

Just remember I said it was patched out

Mind you I said she HAD an infinite in case you thought I said she still had it. Basically she could juggle her power launcher over and over as in infinite combo near walls , basically cb near wall then they die, or even if you get a raw one out, it may not have been infinite mid screen but it...

I don't mind her 2 /8 p+k ssing my tracking moves. What I mind is NOT TRACKING moves hitting me while I sidestep because strings auto correct themselves. This means if I wanna side step, either A. sidestep the last hit in a string or the hit before the next tracking move in that string and...

Lei always gets funny broken stuff, she had the infinite, she had like 50% off mid kick holds in vanilla, now you're telling me about this. Heck, if I didn't know any better I'd say they did it on purpose.

So apparently MR has terrible throws '-', like Ein bad

Rather I'm typing a lot and making mistakes so I'm fixing them? I'm strange for fixing my mistakes I'm sorry bye for trying to show how Marie had really nice throws and how to use them properly. I only edit my post to refrain from double posting didn't know that made me weird? Or makes no sense?

You perhaps haven't played against a good Marie rose also I had meant to type 7k not 9k sorry. I don't use Marie myself but when I fight anyone with her they use 6p hold 4 so you rondo then it's a mix up she can do a high a mid , or she can throw you and if they throw you they can set you up...

Sorry for fusing together 33t and 6t into 66t I do type my messages on my phone. By saying that now I all of the sudden have no clue what I'm talking about? So Marie rose with her BT T which can also be done rondo hold 4 + 23 throw is a character who has bad throws? She has guaranteed damage...

Yeah I was just informing you incase you didn't know. I mean it works on all chars but heavys, so it's not soo bad. I do often switch between 3ppk, p6pk and 3ppk as my wall splat.

Most damaging wall splat is no longer p 6p k, but 3ppk.

Two top tiers and a hitomi, I mean hitomi's 66t is really good, but MR's t at the wall is wayyyy better than hitomi's 66t... so I say they balance out? Besides gen fu and ayane are top tier for their well rounded and cheap play style.

She has like the best throw in the game have you seen her back turn OH? That leads into guaranteed for days and then you can just do another, her mid can be cancelled into a stance which can lead into the throw again and her throws only serve to set up for her okizeme which is amazing which her...

I still don't get why anyone with 9 frame jabs needs such a good force tech game. Whereas people like Bass who need it, get theirs nerfed.

Cute Bayman combo on counter throw 44t 4p h+k, 2k, burst 44t 4p h+k 8 burst 44t 3ppk 4pk 3k 2tt.. A few more I might find

I'll definitely make it out there to the next one once we get the date sorted out guys xD

Okay Okay, is my ps3 bugged? I swore lisa had a 13 frame mid but my game says her mid p is 14 and her mid k is 14... is something wrong?

Wait lisa's fastest mid is 14 frames? I'm sorry what? All this time I swore she was faster than me