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Everyone still required some form of a guess at one point or another within their stun. Hayate was the true 1 hit guarantee into cb or guarantee until the most difficult part of the stun which is threshold. I'm all for guaranteed combos like other games but one character receiving it while no...

As good as SSP, 3K, 7P or P+K, 3K, 7P or 3PP, 3K, 7P? The instant you were hit from any of the above everything was free from the very first initial hit.

I can only imagine. It's a bit funny how messed up it is. He flew all the way to the top in one patch only to get dropped all the way back down to the bottom in one patch. Though that really remains to be seen as he still does have all the buffs except 3K. It seems like they wanted the SDS...

In all seriousness though something needed to give. He had free stun with no ability to counter anything once you got caught into free CB or Max threshold into mix up. Completely shat on everyone elses stun game. literally if u got hit by p+k or ssp or 3k within that setup or 3pp u were fuqed...

At the time of this posting haven't thoroughly tested everything 1.04 Mila yet but I can confirm Mila has her P+K into mount combos back as well as 3H+K, P+K, 3H+K is back. That's the most important thing she needed back imho and she still keeps the damage buffs. damage relocation nerf is still...

I'll refrain from posting anything else temporarily because 1.04 didn't just fix the SE glitch like people were expecting but added some stealth nerfs/buffs. For example Mila has fuqing returned. P+K into mount is back as well as her FT from what I can tell at the time of this posting so far...

Actually you know what. The more I think about the more I believe Gen Fu isn't top 3 or top 5. Top 10 sure. Post patch especially characters like Kasumi and Hayate strike me as more and more silly everytime I mess with them. Hayate gets freebie stuns out the ass now and has the damage to go...

I'm creating this thread for a listing of Youtube accounts that upload DOA5 matches that often don't migrate their way to this site. Perhaps people can collaborate and provide some. I'll start by listing this guys account. He uploads whatever people have posted on the PS3 leaderboards from...

Yeah I'm in that boat as well. Sarah, Jann Lee, Gen Fu are the best post patch. Lei falls in the same pool as Pai, Kasumi, Akira. Ayane is good but not the above good imo. I think Ayane, Hayabusa, Hayate all fall in the same pool as well.

The patch has created a problem in that it's turned quite a few people into a "bitch". Essentially people who get twirked by you or don't wanna lose to u regardless of the fact u have a 4bar/5bar connection will deny you and pick and choose who they fight. The funny thing is their are quite a...

Before he was just complete garbage imo. All he had going for him was that sweet i7 236T, 7K. His speed was respectable to but his mixups were bad and he was on the high end of what it means to be unsafe. All the above still applies except he now has the awesome sit-down properties of 3P+K, SSP...

Heh, I can respect it. Out of curiosity who would u consider the best? Probably Jann or Lei right?

Dayum son! Tier thread got blown up and turned lifeless after the patch huh? Sarah still better than everyone imo. Mila fell from godliness that people just didn't see at the time and now never will. Akira bumped up into the elite. Pai fell from grace but how far I dunno yet. Brad Wong is...

I see. Despite that its not worth it as 3KK late in stun guarantees nothing with SE and u don't even have to full SE. If ur gonna use 3KK to stun it should be ur starter into something else.