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And now without Itagaki, she can actually be something.

The Gym one is nice, but nothing beats her red ninja outfit.

Damage increase, yes! She looked super weak for the amount of effort you had to put in for some stuff.

I knew she was gonna be better. Because this isn't Itagaki. People should really give TN a break. They're actually trying.

Wonder how her 4P+K is.

I actually didn't like Tengu's moveset. Except for his air grab, 4T, 8PP, 8P+K. I hated Lisa in 4. And thanks to a few property changes and her running stance, she's my second favorite character. I will bandwagon the new Tengu if TN makes her fun enough in this game. But she's not Kasumi or...

That's true.

That's a good point. I guess you can look at in 2 ways. I always considered it an offensive answer to attacks. But it can be used defensively. Especially positioning away from danger zones like you said. Edit: Wait, can you actually use it to create space? I figured it puts you closer to the...

So they're at least trying to make her viable at least.

Yeah, a guy with wings would basically be the equivalent. But if he actually looked handsome, people would love him. People don't like constipated Pinocchio monsters, man or woman.

I don't think you should leave for something so trivial. You're opinion was good and you defended it like a real fan. I think if Tengu turned out to be a sexy man like Jin or Ryu people would have loved him almost as much. They're not perverts. They just don't like ugly monsters. Which is what...

Fair enough. Was just playing devil's advocate for TN.

The sexy fetish thing might be overboard. And if you're angry with that, I have no objection. But they have to make Tengu not a monster. Whether that means making a sexy male or female. I think that just fit her personality so they took the easier way out.

You're right, he is original, but that doesn't make him popular. He's never been popular. He never ever will. This at least gives Tengu a chance. It's marketing. TN wants Tengu fans happy. But they are a business first. They will not work hard on a character that will never be popular...

An assumption based on the fact that when he was free, no one played him. If they're gonna spend resources on bringing Tengu back and balancing him for tourneys and future games, then they want the character to actually sell. A handful of people buying Tengu will not help TN at all. They want...

I didn't see it, thanks. And yeah, you can also throw them in at any very long animation move or delayed string like Busa's 6KP. I just consider that offensive still, because you have to stop guarding to throw it out in the hopes of damage.

That's a made up meme. Most of those people never even cared about him until that movement even started lol. Compared to the actual fanbase, that's nothing at all. He was never popular in any game he was in. TN knows this. This is there way of saving a character. No one is realistically gonna...

Sadly, they're right, though. The fanbase never cared about a Pinocchio monster with wings. Sex sells. Monsters don't.

They're amazing in my opinion. But they are risk/reward as opposed to safety. New players should avoid those situations until they're comfortable with the game. That's the only thing I disagree with Tenryuga on. If we're specifically taking about someone wanting to get into Kasumi, I would...