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Hmm, I didn't think of that. I will try that! And yes, it seems like TN missed a few impacts to their changes. I hope they do fix those trainings soon.

You know, I was thinking about that, and as far as adding a frame here and removing one there, I have to think that there is some sort of reason or process behind these changes. I can't imagine that they are just randomly jacking with frames just for fun, but who knows??

So, I was playing through the rest of the tutorial just now, and it appears that I cannot get past lesson 26.1 (Move startup frame training). Turns out that you have to land a standing punch after Kasumi blocks Hitomi's 236K. Problem is that you can't because the move is now -5 on block instead...

Good stuff Crext. So you are using H and F as if they are two different things. I thought both meant the block button. can you clarify please? If I had to guess, does F mean H+K?

I have noticed this too. It seems that Hitomi has more options in combos and generally more mixups, while Ein seems to be total brute strength. I am not even that good yet, but Ein is one character I can beat more often online, since he plays very similarly to Hitomi.

Thanks. got one more noob question about the frame data. So what exactly is the 'delay frame' information telling me. I get everything else on the frame data chart except for that. Thanks again!!

Hey guys. Reading this thread and there is a LOT of good info on this character. I am new to DOA in general, and chose Hitomi because I always like the karate types in fighting games. One question. for Hitomi's low kick counter. Is there anything that is a guaranteed hit after that? been...

Hello All, I am new to the community, and new to DOA in general. Just picked up DOA5U about a week ago, and LOVE it, but damn is it a big change from tekken! I have been playing tekken since Tekken 1 in the 90s, so pretty good with those games, but I have been getting murdered online - I can...

New to the community, and new to DOA in general. Having fun with DOA5U