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It varies depending on stun. Light stuns are usually like +6, some deep stuns are +25-30ish.

Its not really one defensive option. Its more so a situation where that option is recommended because the opponent is in a good position to launch you.

I meant an issue with how you present your gripe with the game as a flaw it has when its not a flaw. From light stuns all the options you mention are available. From deep stuns you only have abare as an attept to beat out throws for very rewarding damage or hold. You can also stagger deep stuns...

And that's fine. The issue people have with you is that you are presenting this as a flaw in the game when it is not a flaw within the games system. Players are allowed to hold those moves that put you into the "must hold situations". and are still allowed to make a read afterward to avoid...

My alternatives were to stagger out of the stun but the stun he had me in was deep. In this game stuns that are deep put you in what are dubbed "must hold situations." because you cannot stagger out of them. That was one of those situations.

First off thats a terrible example of my play. Second I tried to hold because the player was coming at me with alot of high to mid punches. However since our connection is not the best many inputs were delayed or came out incorrectly thus causing my hold attempts to fail.

http://www.freestepdodge.com/media/doa5u-hitomi-vs-ein-tenryuga.5351/ http://www.freestepdodge.com/media/doa5u-hitomi-vs-ein-tenryuga.5355/ Also that's the point of Hi-counter throws. They punish players that hold often which is why I said 50 million times you should not hold unless you have a...

The underlined statements are false. Yes in this game you are punished hard for making terrible reads or making bad decisions. This is the standard in every competitive fighting game. And half his life bar was gone because he did a highly damaging option THAT IS ONLY AVAILABLE WHEN YOU HAVE LESS...

The P didnt lead to a stun. He was already stunned by something before hand and the P was used to extend the stun, where he proceeded to make a bad read and get punished hard for it. Are you foreign to the concept of getting punished for bad reads?

Dude. I joined because I saw that players that don't understand the game mechanics were spreading false information about the game. You'd best believe I'm not going to let that slide especially because the game is legit. I'm not going to front and pretend it has no flaws but the things you...

WRK > 66KKK is 44 damage and works in all of those situations you are describing. Assuming 9K 2pp 6k4k is her best damage that's 39 points. This doesn't include the damage done beforehand just the damage of the juggle. If we include damage done beforehand Ein's winning by more than 5 points.

I agree with your breakdown though the bold and underlined statements are incorrect. Ein's 2P is arguably one of the best 2P's if not the best 2P in the game as well as his P because of the potential damage of CH PKK. His 3P is also a safe, deep stunning mid that you cannot stagger escape out...

Momiji vs Zack is a 5-5 IMO Momiji outclasses him in the spacing department. She has tools to get in safely with less chance of the opponent being able to retaliate. Some of Zack's moves for approach are either high (meaning they are crushable), put him at disadvantage in the opponents face or...

Eliot has 5-5s he is not that bad. Maybe no 6-4s but he definitely has 5-5s.

This is going to be quite comprehensive but here it is. With Momiji I play close-mid range footsies to score counter hits or whiff punishment off of her 4K, 44K, 66P and 4P. For keep-out I use PK, K, 4P, H+K, 2H+K, 6P, 3K,4K, 44K,44P and 7K. In close range I abuse her neutral 2P to setup...

Yeah it doesn't matter to me; I just want to see your list lol.