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The one TN cares about.

Her hair is fine guys.

That 2nd one has sunglasses and a cop hat? Hnnng... We don't know all the costumes coming. I still think they'll add the genie costume. Hate her dress though.

It's an interesting POV, but input timing is the only thing difficult about SFIV. Of course there's wonky hitboxes and charater specific set ups as well. DOA5U is adding a lot of combo sub systems so players can be more creative with their juggles, I think that's what's really missing. Power...

A lot of Helena's set ups in DOA4 required a bigger damage sacrifice. You have to remember that attacks and combos did not do much damage in 4. So Helena's PFT allows her to open up the stun game into more damage in DOA5. I believe whn you consider both systems DOA5 PFT is the superior tech.

Yeah with holds it would be a bit much, but it would definitely put a stop to "dumb" offense, of course it should be limited to characters that would absolutely need them.

It was mostly dependant on her BKO throw. Whereas PFT could be done off of anything easily. At the same time there was nothing guaranteed off of either tech.

Also not his fault. He's probably dependant on Tecmo JP for any information in regards to DOA5U.

I hope they bring back the old animation from DOA4 of her 7 F+K iirc. Weird they went back with the DOA3 version.

It's not going to make up for everything else she doesn't have.

What would your opinion on invincible moves be? (Like in Tekken Rev) or DPs in SFIV to get out of vortex?

In what way?

You can block, or crouch block. Or zero frame low hold to evade standing throws.You're in a psudo vortex yes, but you're capable of escaping it. It's advantageous guessing really.

Hmm... she got some new string enders. Lost a few integral strings too.

Because sHitomi. She sucks in DOA5.

Yeah I was talking about SCV match making being bad. DOA5 netcode is a shit sandwhich, there's some decent connections, but it's in between the dark green shit and the soupy diaherra.

Their netcode is good, but their match making is garbage tier. (SCV)

None, really. Tengu would be a completely unique moveset. Genra too, but his zoning game is 2D levels of BS.

I believe Helena is getting all these new moves is because moveset wise she was one of the last characters added in DOA5 and got the least amount of new animations/tools. I have a feeling the PFT Helena players are going to be in for a rude awakaning come DOA5U, but she should have the DOA5...