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Interesting take on Zack vs Eliot. In theory, it seems just about right, Zack takes Eliot in speed but can be easily parried. His backturned sweep is also quick so on a mid punch/mid kick hold the partially guaranteed 7p would be damn near completely useless. I'll look into it. Can I get some...

I doubt anyones really going to press fastest SE anyway, but it's whatever.

Taking a trip into top tier today. Looking at JL.

-sigh- Brad isn't single strikes, he's 2 at the worst for his mixups and lets stop ignoring the mid crushing madness that goes down. Stop bringing our argument to other topics, it's getting annoying. If you wanna talk about it, there's a messaging system for you. Favorable... I'd say he's...

LOL I call bullshit. He's high tier because of that damage mixed with those stuns, on top of the fact that he's got a some what adept mixup game with them guaranteed setups.

Ah that is indeed true, then again you are risking Hi counter damage combos off of that wake up kick if you do :214::P:. The other ninja's hop overs are more solid because if you get over them, you get a free attack because of the disadvantage + backturned disadvantage.

There's no subject change. The subject is brad cheap, and the OP talks about my argument against Brad being able to crush a true mid... Now I have proof of it happening again and a witness. It's cheap, breaks the idea of the game completely. inb4 "well he's falling back", ask Nanhou, I was...

Look man, lbsh. I'm right, you're wrong. I know what your next thought is, "no I'm right you're lying". NanhouDrops has proven that 3H+K can be completely crushed by certain moves that go into laydown stance for Brad. You're hopeless to talk to though, I'm not going to sit here trying to prove...

Never said he was the only but I mean is this topic not about Brad. You might want to step off if you're "not sure" about what you're talking about.

Just in DOA5. He's literally all about outsmarting your opponent at all times by constantly evading or blocking. His special sidestep is his crutch. Once you're past that, there's nothing but single strikes and an "ok" damage possibility.

Speaking of Ryu's crushes, He's got hop overs, like all the ninja's do... OH WAIT. Hayate doesn't. The fuck is this shit man. -.-

Bout dam time you realized. >:C

This. Online makes some characters appear dumber than they are. Online Kokoro seems to be beyond safe and unpunishable, but offline, while she is safe than most, you can easily work against her especially if they love to attack at disadvantage. Same goes for Lisa, Brad, and Helena. They're...

Heh. You do know that everything Hayate does leaves him at disadvantage as well right, yet he gets no mid crushes or offensive holds... what makes brad so deserving of it. His damage is the same if not better than Hayate's... am I missing something?

do me a favor, go to the lab and do 236P on block it will be -8 of frame advantage. Then I want you to back away and do the running version of it. it will be -5. It is not punishable on block. Only the 236 version is punishable. You're just really adamant on trying to prove me wrong on FACTS.

Funny how you still wanna talk shit out here and think I'm not gunna see it. Keep talking. Winter Brawl bro.

Julius Rage . . . you're all hype. Winter Brawl, you gunna finally show up to something or you gunna keep talkin from a far?

My Zack combos go hard.

Brute making the panties drop.

I got untechable setups on untechable setups on untechable setups, as wel as combos on combos. Zack.