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Hey you're wrong, we all are at one point. Don't feel too bad about it.

I never said they didn't exist, I just said they aren't really as effective(as you claimed) in DOA5.

I keep getting sent to lobbies when I try to find a match on ranked. Lobbies that I can only view, no way to back out of them or even participate. I would imagine this type of interference would be one of the reasons why lag spikes randomly happen in lobby matches.

I know they don't exist to the extent of your exaggeration in this state of DOA5. Ayane could constantly keep herself at +7 and that only worked because you couldn't hold her string, you had to respect her offense. That is absolutely not the case for any of the current "frame traps".It is now +1...

Jann Lee does not avoid the stun system, he plays it a little less.Jann has to guess 2 or 3 times before he does any major damage.

I'm not arguing that they don't exist, I'm just saying they aren't as effective as you described. If it's a high or high mid I'll use my instant crush attacks to beat it out, or my 0 frame holds to negate your offense.There is no such character in this game that can constantly pressure because...

I have, and they can't do what you described to that extent.

So do the VF character, but they can't keep you frame trapped like that.

Hitomi really seems unchanged from Alpha demo for the most part.

Problem is they had is just right for newcomers in DOA4. It was already simplified, now some motions are just flat out harder to do. I can not do Eliot's 46p strings at all.

Thanks Team Ninja.

In his defense he was playing a less butchered version.

Eh, a guaranteed stun that leads to a 50/50 gives me a chance to escape out of whats probably at this point pitiful damage. Why is she playing still 50/50s when she already guessed right?

Once again, that is not the case if you read what AP said correctly. She does play the guessing game on a lot of her holds and throws. She has some guaranteed set ups, but you can SE and hold out of others. Overall this isn't a character with good throws or holds. I've played against some...

If I can hold or SE out of any of your set ups and I'm succesful then all the risk you took to hold or throw is pointless. Yeah she has some guaranteed stuff from specific hold or throw, but overall she does not. She countinues the guessing game in places where she shouldn't and most others do...

She's + elevendy billion on like 2 of them. It's good if you don't hold or SE I guess. When Pai lands a hold or throw all I can do is feel bad for the player when his risk turns to my advantage. Example of a good throw. Dat life bar Example of a bad throw DAT frame advantage See...

You think it's fair that a character becomes permentantly invisible? You can't stop or deter it, nor can you combat it. If you don't believe me try running into traffic with a blindfold on vs without. Post your results.

I think a lot of the same things are holding DOA5 back the same way DOA4 is. A lot of things were improved, but the heart of the game is still too guess based. There are things to be discovered. We went from Helena being trash to tournmanet winning character in a really short time for example...

Shit is hard to do on a pad.