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It's funny. Only problems I've had with Ryu(Ever), is the fact that he's got more options from his ninpo stance, than Hayate does in Hayate-Gake... Has he really gotten much better from 4 though?

I think he's just saying, patience.

Before this completely dies out, you've discussed his 9f palm, and parry, but what worth comes with his 10 hit combo string? All I've been able to pick up is the 6th hit is a ground bounce launch. Can you hold it at any and all points in it, and it also seems that it doesn't go low so, couldn't...

Good Point. A poll would've been a good idea...

don't know why that didn't click in my head -.- but now there's a off topic subject in the doa5 section... my bad.

I'm always trying to up my game when it comes to fighters and such, so I've been wondering lately: Should I be dedicating my thumb either the stick or the pad, or is it fine to stay hybrid between the two, Do you get better QCF and QCB's out of the pad, or out of the stick. Has switching...

Lol I sense sarcasm. An off topic section would be nice though. idm the sub forums right now so much.

Hayate. I've stuck with him since DOA2 because what I really love is that out of all the characters, his style evolved to most, from karate to a mugen tenshin ninja style. And when it comes down to it, he still retains some of his karate moves even still(1kp, 8p, 8k, 236p, 214k, and his neck...

Yea like me :D I'm not new to the DOA series but I'm still learning, so I'll be willing to fight with you too.

Welp I guess it's been figured out now that DrDogg clarified as well as Chris H. Another thing that hasn't been mentioned, is his 10 hit combo that was added, though, I wouldn't blame people for brushing it off, I mean, what are the chances of landing a combo like that on a pro player? Chances...