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Updated tier list in no order S+: Gen Fu, Christie, Leifang, Helena S: Akira, Ayane, Rig S-: Hayate, Kasumi, Pai A+: Ryu, Zack, Jacky, A: Phase 4, Hitomi, Sarah, Momiji, Mai, Kokoro A-: Mila, Rachel, Bayman, Jann Lee, Tina, Leon B+: Eliot, Raidou, Lisa, Bass, Nyotengu B: Honoka, Brad Wong...

Updated tier list in no order S+: Gen Fu, Christie, Leifang, Helena S: Akira, Ayane, Rig S-: Hayate, Kasumi A+: Ryu, Zack, Jacky, Pai A: Phase 4, Hitomi, Sarah, Momiji, Mai, Kokoro A-: Mila, Rachel, Bayman, Jann Lee, Tina B+: Eliot, Leon, Raidou, Lisa, Bass B: Honoka, Brad Wong, Marie Rose...

Besides the Ryu part, where else are there disagreements?

Update to tier list in no order: S+: Gen Fu, Christie, Leifang, Helena S: Akira, Rig, Hayate S-: Ayane A+: Kasumi, Ryu A: Phase 4, Sarah, Zack, Tina, Momiji, Pai, Jacky, Mai, Kokoro A-: Mila, Rachel, Momiji, Bayman B+: Jann Lee, Eliot, Leon, Raidou, Lisa, Bass B: Honoka, Brad Wong, Marie Rose...

Updated tier list in no order: S+: Gen Fu, Christie, Leifang, Helena S: Akira S-: Rig, Ayane, Hayate A+: Kasumi, Ryu, Sarah A: Phase 4, Zack, Tina, Hitomi, Pai, Jacky, Mai, Kokoro, Bayman A-: Mila, Rachel, Momiji B+: Jann Lee, Eliot, Leon, Raidou B: Bass, Lisa, Honoka, Brad Wong B-: Ein...

Updated tier list in no order: S+: Gen Fu, Christie, Leifang, Helena S: Rig, Ryu, Akira S-: Ayane, Sarah A+: Kasumi, Hayate, Phase 4, A: Zack, Tina, Hitomi, Pai, Jacky, Mai, Kokoro, Bayman A-: Mila, Rachel, Momiji B+: Jann Lee, Eliot, Leon B: Raidou, Bass B-: Lisa, Brad Wong, Honoka C+: Marie...

Updated overall tier list in no order: S: Gen Fu, Christie, Leifang, Helena, Rig, Ryu, Akira, Kasumi, Ayane, Sarah A: Hayate, Phase 4, Zack, Tina, Hitomi, Bayman, Pai, Jacky, Mai, Mila, Kokoro, Eliot, Rachel B: Jann Lee, Leon, Momiji, Bass, Brad Wong, Raidou, Alpha 152, Nyotengu, Lisa C: Marie...

Updated tier list (No order) (Overall): S: Gen Fu, Christie, Leifang, Helena A: Ryu, Rig, Akira, Kasumi, Ayane, Sarah, Hayate, Phase 4, Zack, B: Mai, Jann Lee, Hitomi, Bayman, Rachel, Pai, Jacky, Kokoro, Tina, Eliot, Mila C: Marie Rose, Honoka, Bass, Brad Wong, Lisa, Raidou, Momiji, Leon, Alpha...

I feel that way. I don't think there's great manipulation that can be done minus if you free cancel, which leaves her exposed. She's also not super fast. She has fast strikes but that's about it. After that her overall speed in regards to movement to me is similar to Ayane and yes she's fast but...

Not really. Most of her strings are straight forward. The problem is yes lag allows her to be held less but also since not many people don't fight alpha, minus the competitive people, they don't have the proper tactics to fighting her when they do have that opportunity.

I feel that Alpha offline plays better offline than online. When I watch alpha offline, (mainly Xcal) I see how she got far. Heck she even won a tourney I think. Something that I'm still shocked about. But I have to give her the respect she deserves. Reminder, this isn't my final tier list. I...

Since the tier list we have is outdated I felt maybe I can at least make an attempt at making my own tier list. Here is my depiction for the most part: Online tier list U: Gen Fu, Christie, Helena S: Leifang, Ryu, Hayate, Rig, Akira, Kasumi, Ayane, Mai, A: Kokoro, Hitomi, Tina, Zack, Jacky...

I think a pure boxer and kick boxer so far is missing. You can say a swordsman as well but if that's the case, they can easily put any of the ninjas as a swordsman. I think a pure boxer can open ways for some epic dodge moments and side steps. A pure boxer can be good as well. I know Mila has...

I think so. After most majors we always see an influx of characters that won a major. We seen it with Akira, Bayman (somewhat), Helena, and now with Tina. I think this will actually stick too because: 1) She's more beginner-friendly: She's the easier of the grapplers to use. 2) She has more...

Ok. Thanks. So far from my list from everyone, Rig's unfavorable matchups include Kasumi, Ryu, Hitomi, Bayman, Christie, Leifang and leifang. And he's a high tier character from most of the community. I'll continue to look into this kind of stuff. If anyone has more info please tell me. All...

Thanks. It is outdated but it does give a decent look on some characters. Anything on match-ups. I hear for example Rig isn't favorable against Kasumi, Ryu, Hitomi, and Leifang. But I want to look into that so I can practice the match-up situations to improve myself.

Anyone know where I can find out about the character match up odds and the recent tier lists. I think both of these can help me in regards to understanding how certain characters are matched up and listed in regards to tiers. I know some people don't favor tier lists but it still would be...

I like Rig. He's cool and all. But After losing in Aqua's tournament, I feel that if I'm ever going to win any tournaments in the future, I might have to go with someone else. I'm thinking of rocking Brad, Jann Lee, Ein, Bass, Gen Fu so far. They've been my best characters of the day when I...

Thanks Eks. Looking forward to learning more about this game. :)

Thanks Gurimm. We gotta get some games again. I'll tell JRow too.