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  1. Zeo

    What would you change about DOA?

    Hmm.. DOA2 DOA3 DOA4 DOA5 Not seeing it at all, in fact DOA5 looks to be the slowest DOA to date. DOA4 definitely looks the fastest but DOA2 looks pretty fast itself, 3 is a bit slower but still definitely faster than 5. 4 > 2 > 3 > 5 from the looks of it. Since DOAD plays close...
  2. Zeo

    You all need to make sure you understand what is going on before asking Team Ninja for nerfs/buffs.

    Not really that much better. Safer doesn't really matter if you're already unsafe. Let's see... 6kp, 9p 4pp, 3k. Yeah, not all that relevant. At least Busa has his Izuna counters as well. Saying everything he has would imply that a lot he had was better, busa has better counters and a better...
  3. Zeo

    What would you change about DOA?

    Is DOA5 the slowest DOA of them all? I don't recall a lot of DOA2 as I didn't play ultimate online, but I definitely remember DOA3 being faster than this. The overall tempo of the game as a whole could use a boost. DOA4 with all it's short comings was definitely more fast paced and adrenaline...
  4. Zeo

    You all need to make sure you understand what is going on before asking Team Ninja for nerfs/buffs.

    The point was that there's a reason why you aren't seeing any Hayate players at tournaments. No one has faith him as a viable competitive character. Master may be loyal to Hayabusa but I don't think he would still use him if he didn't believe he was viable enough to take to a tournament. Perfect...
  5. Zeo

    You all need to make sure you understand what is going on before asking Team Ninja for nerfs/buffs.

    Master as good of a player as he is, is making Hayabusa work and he has enough to work with even if he's not the greatest character anymore. Tell me if you can find any high level Hayate players that actually have taken him to a tourney and placed well since the game's release. Hayabusa got...
  6. Zeo

    You all need to make sure you understand what is going on before asking Team Ninja for nerfs/buffs.

    That's my bad then, I should have said low throw. The +1 is useless though. Because the risk is not worth the reward and the best he can do against people with 11 frame mids and 10 frame jabs is jab himself (which can be held, sidestepped or even crushed). On top of that he can be held or...
  7. Zeo

    You all need to make sure you understand what is going on before asking Team Ninja for nerfs/buffs.

    +1 is ok in a game with a million unsafe attacks. However, Hayate has to put himself out there and use ridiculously long charge attacks that can be held or blocked without much fear and all he gets out of it is +1. The VF characters get +1 any time they want by Jabbing. Hayabusa, Leifang and...
  8. Zeo

    You all need to make sure you understand what is going on before asking Team Ninja for nerfs/buffs.

    I hate to sound ignorant but I can't remember the specific reasons for Lisa but from what I recall from Lisa players she's not too different from her DOA4 self and she's generally regarded as low. As far as basic knowledge goes, she seems slow, unsafe and I've actually managed to sidestep her...
  9. Zeo

    You all need to make sure you understand what is going on before asking Team Ninja for nerfs/buffs.

    At least he's still viable though. Hayate is competitively unplayable at this point. At this point I believe he's gotten hit with the nerf bat harder than anyone else in the series. Originally I thought Helena got nerfed like that with him but after discovering her insane force tech game she's...
  10. Zeo

    DOA5+ for PS Vita

    I swear to God if we get Leon back and not Ein...
  11. Zeo

    Tips, Tricks, Combos

    It was revealed to me by my training partner, it was actually in the strategy guide which he got. The more you know.
  12. Zeo

    Ninja Gaiden Thread

    I honestly don't think any NG game will ever surpass NG:Black. But dispite the flaws that are still apparent, NG3:RE looks to be miles better than Vanilla NG3 and a legit NG game even if it is still inferior to 1 and 2.
  13. Zeo

    Good game, Bad game Online/Offline thread

    ggs to ElectrifiedMann. Kokoro vs Akira has never been so epic until now. Amazing late night set even if we were both falling asleep.
  14. Zeo

    First time I've had such a long set with ElectrifiedMann. ggs sir amazingly epic Kokoro vs Akira...

    First time I've had such a long set with ElectrifiedMann. ggs sir amazingly epic Kokoro vs Akira battles.... even if you took my S+ away. :(
  15. Zeo

    What system should the DOA IPL League be played on?

    Going to do that in training right now...
  16. Zeo

    Tips, Tricks, Combos

    Another tip I have is that it's viable to throw out a naked :214::P: as long as you're sure you won't be hit before it comes out as it's fairly slow. The objective isn't to land on the opponent but to make them press a button. :214::P: is a sitdown stun and it looks grossly unsafe but it's...
  17. Zeo

    What system should the DOA IPL League be played on?

    Eliot's :4::6::P: finisher for most of his strings is perfect example of that. The buffer window is tighter than any other :4::6: motion in the game as far as I've seen.
  18. Zeo

    Who is the New People's Hero?

    What about CXThomahahahahaha..
  19. Zeo

    The Official Dead or Alive 5 Tier List with Discussion thread

    One thing I don't think will ever change though is Jann Lee and Gen Fu. Unless patched, they will probably be top tier from the beginning of this game's life to it's end.
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