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I'm gonna start every round with Kasumi's 7K. Edit: I notice there's no throw input needed for rigs air throw. The last K in the string naturally grabs the opponent out of the air.

I like it. It reminds me of this.

If you wanted to risk it though, there was enough time between the second punch and first kick to deliberately let yourself get high counter blown, which would allow you to hold the string. The hold would do more damage than Zack's string, and it would stop his mix-up at the end of it. Works for...

Looks like you can hit the opponent after the round is finished again.

Just over 10 mins to go...

Which day is the tournament being held on? I can probably make it, but only for Saturday.

They're pretty much the same options I'm using at the minute. After a wall hit I use these as his BnB's: :8::P:, :P::P::2::K::P: :8::P:, :P::P::P::P: (works only on a slope) :h3::p::p:, :3::3::k::k: (Does the most damage. Use after explosive wall hit as well) As for juggling of the mid kid...

The move still crushes extremely well, and the stance actually goes under high attacks quite effortlessly too. I haven't played DoA4 in sometime but it *seems* that the stance has a faster startup than his old 236+F version, but with a much much bigger recovery period. That's just what it feels...

Yeah, but only from his new :6::P:+:k: stance. It's probably his best NH launcher.

Just playing around with Hayate. I doubt the last two are actual combos, they're just there for fun.

Yeah, that is a high kick. In case you guys are unaware you can charge these attacks :P::p::p:(:P:), :P::p::6:(:P:), :9::p:(:P:), :6::6::P:(:P:), and instead of them just becoming stronger versions, the attack actually changes into his new :4::P:+:K:. It seems pretty useful as a method to get...

Man, Hayate really is a shadow of his former self. He lost 88/22k, 7p (replaced with 4P+K), the kick after 2k, pp4pp, 236F, and all his new and great doa:d tools like f+k6 to name a few. Despite that I really enjoy playing as him, he feels somewhat well-rounded. Also I had assumed because...

Is it really a mix-up though if the same one action will beat either attack? In this case all you have to do is guard low.

Damn, well said.

He looks really smug in that photo.

He seems to be able to juggle of a NH, so he already has that going for him. But then again, so could Eliot...

Just noticed that in the trailer Hayabusa izuna drop holds hayate's 4P+K. So that means either 4P+K is now a mid attack or that high expert holds existed in the trailer but has since been removed.

That can be countered though, right? So of all the taunts in the game that would be the flat out absolute worst.

I wouldn't say they are completely useless, Busa's taunt/ninpo glitch is a great way to draw in your opponent. They're semi-useless.

As someone still relatively new to the DOA community, who exactly is Morris and what is his background? All I ever see is talk about Manny. I've tried several times, I really have, but it's just too much whining to get through. It would be great if his main points were written down somewhere...