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I second this and you know who is backing up my Zack Awesmic.

esports dude.....esports......no offense...but do you watch any type of sport instead of play video games all day? i mean I know the NHL is locked out and such. But come on deal don't tell me you didn't see that one coming dogg.

Question: Characters like Zack and Christie were created to be pure mix up/oki characters....if you say oki doesn't exist...then what archtype do you call characters like Zack and Christie?

you Rhythmik I'll be online this week. Wanna trade Zack notes?

lol that's funny...i lost my first game with bass against andre who was using kokoro. But you make a good point. the same can be said for Ayane.

I learned last night vs. andre...good god man...how do you do it with bass? understanding what other characters do? have a pocket Jann Lee? Uncle: But dude it wall splats you can't past that up if you got a combo that is close to the wall. But keeping the foe close is important too.

oh i see. Man my Bass needs work. Using him in tournament is not that easy.

I get to upload my Zack videos now. That's great.

How good is this mix up vs. characters with a crazy bt game? i.e. Helena or ayane *on a wall* 214T,4T(kitchen push away), 236T(full charge)*2T btw...mr.wah...why don't you do the follow up to the air throw 236T. Did you know it has one? We should start doing it. It can wall splat. buffs...

you can't hold 3P+K* forgot the extra K. But yeah man 3P+K is what you describe it as is. It's a mid crush. It crushes mid.

Uh...you can't hold 3p...you automatically sidestep when you mid punch hold it. It's crush a bro you ain't holding it or parrying it. Also I feel it leads Zack way because Eliot can't take advantage of Zack's biggest weakness...he's free to high crushes and Eliot has none. People like Gen fu...

This is a good breakdown. You know your Zack. But I feel this leads Zack's way because of his speed 3P+K pretty much crushes most of Eliot's offense. H+K and ball are another moves you need to consider too. H+K is good at mid range, moves Zack forward, and it's +3 on block and even Eliot's...

a lot of stuff JR.

Merry Christmas...now back to training with Zack.

Yo Zack... Zack: You suck...

7P, 3P, and I have found ways to stop ya from 2ping. I can 6P+K or 6K for your troubles. You gotta remember sway is quick, so i can stop at any time need be. A good Zack won't commit to sway in less it's leading into a combo. I don't know the data on just doing 3p sway or 7p sway. Also 4k is...

Nah. He high mid in DOA 4 with it. It helps him out greatly and can stop him from being crush so much. His moves don't suck ass actually. He has some okay crushes, great pokes, and safe ways to start combos and enter into both his stances. The launchers he has have some fucked up gravity...

Why would someone ask that?

Geez really? I didn't know...man you're so smart Jeff.... OF COURSE HE DOESN'T YOU FOOL! Did you just figure that out? But here's the thing, while it would be cool for him to have one and such . He doesn't really need it to be awesome an OH is more useful than a parry or sabakis(Which is...

Lol Who are you?