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The elbow is a guard break that leaves you at -5, i'm assuming you will now be at plus on block with the reduced recovery frames, but i'm not sure. I'm actually really curious to see what this actually is, and if new shenanigans are possible with it.

You never know, there could be another patch coming ala MK9.

So, is there a reason you decided to insult Karraz or did you forget your meds this morning? I agree with Karraz, chill the fuck out and quit being a dick, Tones.

honestly, i wouldn't be surprised if it was CH, NH limbo stun sounds too good to be true, but i guess well see.

I will add that Zafina is beautiful enough to be in DOA (and especially with the fabulous voice of Lisle Wilkerson, who also does Nina and Sarah incidentally). Love her fighting style, hate tekken mechanics unfortunately :(

God, the Tekken girls look so pathetic trying to be sexy lol. Wit those big ass man shoulders haw haw.

interesting info, thanks ailing. I wonder if shenanigans would be possible, especially since it got a huge damage boost. I will definitely be playing around with this now.

yes, i agree with you on that! DOA5 stages are so boring compared to past games :( Also, i really hate how stingy they are with guaranteed options. It's clear who they want to be on top, and who they want to remain "guessing" characters, which is so silly.

the numbers are directions, 4=left, 2=down, etc. They are based on the number keypad, the 9 directions are represented by 9 different numbers.

I would've liked to see more natural combos in this patch; the majority of characters still have to rely on stun shenanigans, but at least TN is on the right track. I wonder if this will be the final patch they release for this game, or if we can expect another update ala SF4/MK9?

er, those are the wind-up punches correct? The slow ass punches that are almost 30 frames, iirc? I actually thought they already were mids, tbh. How does them becoming mid a nerf? If anything, that's a pretty nice buff imo.

I'm looking forward to it, even tho some changes are mystifying, and some lack of changes are completely baffling (Eliot didn't get shit for example). But i'm curious; how did Tina get raped? I don't spot any nerfs, just buffs in the changelog.

Damn, that totally fucking sucks. :(

Nah, Lisa has that half-hit crap already going for her on some of her low moves.

Did they just add this new buff? I don't remember seeing 3kp buff earlier. But it is a great addition, indeed!

lol synce the hp nerf is a huge buff to Lisa, as well as the sidestep buff. People hardly sidestep in the game as it is; hopefully they will now, and this will benefit us hugely since 2/3 of Lisa's moveset tracks. ;)

yeah me too! BUT, if i remember correctly, it may not work because KK on an airborne opponent causes them to sink like a rock -_- Interestingly enough, K2K can work (sometimes) as a force tech on an airborne opponent, but the sacrifice in damage is completely not worth it. But we'll see come...

i LOVE the 7k, feint, jump OH you did at 1:20. Very nice!

Mr. Wah clarified this; it only applies to axe kicks like Bass and Tina's wheel kick, Hitomi's 3F+K, etc. Lisa's 6F+K already caused untechable, so it won't really affect her that much i think. But with that said, i wonder if this will work with the oft forgotten :K::K::6::K: ?

Anyone know what it means when it says "all (drop) vertical kicks cannot be tech rolled"?