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Wait, 6PP6K giant swing works on middles¿ I'm sure I've tried it and it whiffed the grab.

Why are you guys considering her better than in vanilla¿ with 6H+K, 8P, KK and all the other nerfs I seriously am failing to see what's improving.

Home is a fantastic stage, so is the upper floor of Scramble.

Is lorelei out¿

Probably Brad.

OK I tried what @virtuaPAI said about :K::H+P: being "guaranteed" if the opponent slowscapes the SDS but it seems to be very inconsistent. I put the AI to stagger in fastest and hold high but I got three random results. Sometimes Tina's kick hits, indeed giving her the throw, sometimes the kick...

Nah, I don't think so. It's not only 66K, it's KK not giving the unholdable stun and 6H+K being unsafe. Those three things alone are seriously hurting her.

8P2T as a juggle option is fine and all but most times (at least in my case), a raw launcher gives me enough heigh to either 4T into a wall behind Tina or 41236T for max damage. If the opponent is a lightweight I can even do 6PP6KT sometimes as if the launcher happened after a CB!.

Virtuapai's find sure is interesting and it calms me a little bit. Still I believe her nerfs have to be reverted back, but it's nice to know I actually have options.

Sweet, I'll test them out. Thanks Omegan.

I don't like any of the Halloween themed costumes, but I'm hyped for Lorelei.

Hmm interesting. I'll try that out. Have you tested 2P+K after any unholdable stun¿ It seems to me like it's 100% guaranteed.

Am I positive if they tech¿

So 33P only cause SDS on crouching opponents huh¿

I don't like finishing juggles with 33P4P anymore because it leaves Hele too close to an imminent wake-up kick. Maybe 236PKP as an ender¿

Are you completely sure¿ I can't get 33P to SDS in any situation...

Damage. Fuck frame advantage. They can hold me.

I'm having a LOT of problems finding follow-ups for the heavy bound state. Moves like Gen Fu's :6::P+K: or Tina's :4::P::P::[P]: cause this but I can't find how to follow them at all. Hitomi even does her regular "taunt" after it. Please help.

I literally have eight characters I like in the game. EIGHT. I'll never find a main at this rate.

OK I finally started messing around seriously with Helena in Ultimate as I've been paying more attention to Tina, Fu, Rig and Leifang. She seems a lot different but very nice. 9K seems pretty much guaranteed after any SDS and 66H+K grants a faint stun but no launcher is possible after it (or is...