MasterHavik
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when you lose to sidestepping as bad as her you wouldn't say that. She is also really slow.
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That's why she have tools that'll make a player to think twice to depend on side stepping. Also her being slow doesn't mean much. Bass is slow. Bayman is slow. It's how you execute there tools that makes them good.
lol, 4-chan.
MasterHavik
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well she doesn't have anything to make up for the slowness. Tina is also not all that fast either, but she has powerful throws and ways to get free ground throws. She also has usable sitdown stuns and a good cb. Bayman has holds and ohs. Speed doesn't mean shit to him. Bass has guard breaks, safe pokes, an unholdable cb that is safe, catch throws, and powerful holds. Lisa...has gimmicks....she can't make me think twice about shit. I have blown up good Lisa players trying to pull that shit. And being super slow makes her very easy to stuff by pretty much everyone besides brad wong. Even bass can shut down her pretty flips. So give it up already. Lisa is ass.
See. This is why you need to play my Lisa. You will then understand what I'm talking about.
Also every character has there pros and cons. What is Lisa pros?
Also every character has there pros and cons. What is Lisa pros?
d3v
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I see your problem right there.
MasterHavik
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dude....I play Zack...why would I not play Lisa?
I play all the black characters. Her pros....well...she is black and has amazing costumes...that's it. lol she has some decent throws and her ohs are nice.
Dallas1088
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dude....I play Zack...why would I not play Lisa?
I don't think you can sidestep a couple of her best pokes (1p and 1k), and she has about a million offensive holds. Including one low OH that grants her a full combo. I for one believe that evasiveness/OH's > speed in DOA.
MasterHavik
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that only goes for bayman my friend. Also....best pokes? 1p is i15 and can easily stuff...by all jabs and basic kicks. It also -12 on block that's free punishment. 1k is i21 and is -10 on block you can easily low throw her throwing that out. So good pokes has has you know.
Dallas1088
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I don't know what "has has" means. Those ARE both good pokes, whether you choose to believe it or not.
MasterHavik
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she has* sorry...they are not dude they are slow and are easy to stuff/punish...-12 on block isn't good. -10 on block isn't good either....and that low is i21...that's really bad.
Dallas1088
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The point isn't to be right on top of them when you use them so speed really isn't a factor, to me, Lisa is all about spacing and keeping her distance until she can build momentum. Both of these moves have insane reach, crush highs, catch sidesteppers, and keep her at a distance while giving her a CH or tech if they connect.
MasterHavik
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you know...i kind of say this. about Zack..but people want more in general stuff when you talk about a character. I mean a simple response to that is to just block.
DR2K
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The only thing insane about Lisa's moves is how many frames of animation it takes before you can hit someone.
MasterHavik
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hey...didn't i say that...kasumi's jab stuffs her for free.
Dallas1088
Member
Her 9 frame jab?
MasterHavik
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eeyup...Zack can too with his jab and 6P.
Dallas1088
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Interesting, didn't know a High could beat a High Crushing mid.
MasterHavik
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it's i15 dude....zack's 6p is i11.....