Allan Paris
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Dr. Dogg, once you find out who it is I am pretty sure you are going to start ignoring him, lol. However, the man is seriously trying to get things going in his own way. Whether it makes sense to us or not.
Does the amount of cash prize really help the tournament scene?
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DrDogg
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And all is right in the world again. Does this forum have an ignore feature?
EDIT: Nevermind, found it.
Relius Starkiller
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Because I'm not a curmudgeon.
And as far as streaming, I'm pointing out that Smash Brothers built a sustained following without any of the subscribed to conventions that supposedly legitimaize a community.
And my point is just that: You started with DOA online. How many of those smash players play anything else competitively besides smash? Their enthusiasts, people who love the game. There are a lot of people, online who love DOA and maybe, with a little bit of coaxing, would want to come and play it offline but it isn't going to happen when people take the typical elitist attitude that you seem to be taking.
I can think of countless online players who would make the transition to offline just fine, better than you infact Dr. Dogg. You're trying to reach an audience who has no idea what DOA really is and I'm trying to get the ones who know exactly what it is from first hand experience.
Instead of brushing all of these people off as casuals, how about encouraging them. Sure, you've got Devastation NOW but what where you doing then?
"We we're in a good number of rooms with these people."
You made a funny - in the heyday of DOA the best of the best and most of the players from DOAC period cordoned themselves off in private rooms and even when you we're out in the ether what were you REALLY doing to get people go offline. Matter of fact, if you respond to this post you need to tell me EXACTLY what you were doing, what you were saying.
And if not, lets just leave it at this.
You call me childish for insinuating I'd like to play "just the tip" with a cosplay girl.
I'll call you childish for not allowing another man to give his opinions without being mocked.
And I'm not Julius Rage - I'm the only thing more informative than the movie Pootietang, Relius Starkiller.
Relius Starkiller
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And since we're talking about women, here was my reaction to seeing these new character designs in DOA5
The breast game has depreciated 
Raansu
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And since we're talking about women, here was my reaction to seeing these new character designs in DOA5
The breast game has depreciated
1) She's wearing a jacket.
2) Why are you still here? Go back to TKP where you belong.
Rikuto
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The status quo is a beautiful thing.
Why do some of you fail to realize Julius Rage is trying his dad-gummedest to redeem himself here? I mean come on guys, I'm just as much of a dad-gummed "weirdo" as he is, and y'all are treating him as if he's the dad-gummed plague. Double standards, much.
Did any of you know he even made a dad-gummed formal apology at TKP for his most recent screw-up? I don't believe I've ever seen a post that sincere - much less out-of-character - coming from him. Since I know some of you won't go to the site and pretend it doesn't exist - for whatever joy you find in continuing to look at Julius Rage as though he's still the bad guy - I'll copy and paste it here in plain sight just so you can see it for yourselves. It's the least I can do. Doing otherwise just goes against my nature:
That said, some of you guys are getting too worked up over a few sex jokes he posted to see the big picture. The man's trying to change. It may not be ideal, but at least he's not overdoing it either. If you should be spewing venom at anybody, it should be me.
Did any of you know he even made a dad-gummed formal apology at TKP for his most recent screw-up? I don't believe I've ever seen a post that sincere - much less out-of-character - coming from him. Since I know some of you won't go to the site and pretend it doesn't exist - for whatever joy you find in continuing to look at Julius Rage as though he's still the bad guy - I'll copy and paste it here in plain sight just so you can see it for yourselves. It's the least I can do. Doing otherwise just goes against my nature:
That said, some of you guys are getting too worked up over a few sex jokes he posted to see the big picture. The man's trying to change. It may not be ideal, but at least he's not overdoing it either. If you should be spewing venom at anybody, it should be me.
Relius Starkiller
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1) I've been looking at her rack since 2002, I think I know what the bitches cup size is.
2) Why are you still here? Oh, thats right because you're a snob who rags on people for enjoying DOA4.
Im sorry but I came here to ask questions: I try to have a conversation with a guy and even agree to disagree and for some reason its in good taste to knock me.
Ya know, when I came to DOA4 after years of being silent on DOA2U I ran a tournament that no one appreciated. The prizes were lavish and it was run well but for some reason I ate a turd sandwich and was called all kinds of assholes. I was 18, I got mad and said to myself "Ya know what, I'm going to show these cock suckers what a troll really is." I've had time to think about the way I handled myself then and up until a few months ago even I was trolling people on DOAworld.
I thought about it and I felt I was wrong, I thought that, as fun and as funny as it was maybe it wasn't fair and maybe I should have given you people a fair chance. I thought I should come back, be complicit, apologize, all that stuff.
Wrong (Well with the exception of DOAworld, those people are really nice.)
This is why there are three DOAsites.
And this is why what I'm doing is completely necessary, because people need to see that there is an alternative to what you are offering.
So thank you all for the lesson: I hope all the success in the world for each and every one of you.
I also put my hands together in hopes that you all catch me in the parking lot getting an HJ from Yaya Han.
Seriously guys, she dresses like this because she wants to be ogled and when I see her I'm going to walk up to her and ask "Puedo mantener mi lengua en su ano?"
Back to TK and DOAworld. Have fun being serious all the time.
I only go on the European threads and match finder there. So no, I don't care much for the drama or characters either.
Relius Starkiller
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You're a dumb fuck.
Our tournaments are now and going forward will be advertised on TK, DOAworld, Shoryuken, Here on FSD, and as soon as I get a few of the players from my most recent trounament to help me out the annoucements will be translated into German, Dutch and Russian (which is going to work out really well for all you because the russians have DOA2U servers and once we understand exactly how they work we can get one set up and start holding tournaments for that even.)
So, Ransuu, straw man arguments huh? How about this, once I've done everything that I plan to do and once its successful. . .how about you enter one of the tournaments and win some stuff
Master is right, theres no way to win you people over, the best I can do is laugh at how ignorant SOME of you are.
Winning
Relius Starkiller
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Admit it Unc, you want to throw a fuck into her just as bad as I do.
Jeez Master, you didn't really need a sock puppet accounts to tell us about your aspergers.
DrDogg
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I didn't even know he was Julius Rage when I expressed my displeasure for his posts. Finding out his identity only made me understand why he was posting those things. I was actually relieved to find that it wasn't someone new. I will admit that he seems better than he was back in the day... when he was banned from CGS. Although, that isn't really saying much.
Also, I ignored the sex "jokes", but when you see them in almost every post it gets to be a little much.
Rikuto
P-P-P-P-P-P-POWER!
I was really trying to stay silent through all this because I get tired of looking like the guy igniting the drama fire, but since it's already going....
Uhhh, no. You're not anything on the level that he is. Nobody is. And it's not about being "wierd". I don't even think I've ever met someone as thoroughly disrespectful as Julius Rage. And while I appreciate you being the eternal optimist, you're flatout wrong on this one.
He's trying to redeem himself, so we should all be welcoming him with open arms? This is a guy who purposely ran the first TKP tournament alongside Allan's and actually attempted to convince Allan to cancel his tournament so that TKP could get more exposure. Real class act there, true sign of redemption.
For more class, we're talking about a guy who signed up at this website just to ask for all of our advice on things, and then promptly announce he was going to attempt to directly to compete with us by telling people his website was the only viable choice. Once again, real class act. A sign of redemption for sure.
If I stabbed you, apologized, and then took your wallet... Why the hell would you forgive me?
I know you have trouble seeing peoples failings, but this guy is full of them. The only reason he is even with Master now is because he somehow managed to get himself banned off of most public websites through his sheer vulgarity and disrespect, and even earned himself an entirely dark reputation with private organizations like CGS. He is with Master, because he has no other place to go. Not because he is trying to redeem himself.
I would also reckon the only reason he apologized for that tournament is because he knows all of this, and was getting the evil eye from Master after that event gave him a negative image. Can't afford to piss off the boss, right?
I'd love a world where JR wasn't completely disrespectful with the agenda of "me me me". Unfortunately that world is not reality, and he has not once given me any reason to think otherwise.
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Uhhh, no. You're not anything on the level that he is. Nobody is. And it's not about being "wierd". I don't even think I've ever met someone as thoroughly disrespectful as Julius Rage. And while I appreciate you being the eternal optimist, you're flatout wrong on this one.
He's trying to redeem himself, so we should all be welcoming him with open arms? This is a guy who purposely ran the first TKP tournament alongside Allan's and actually attempted to convince Allan to cancel his tournament so that TKP could get more exposure. Real class act there, true sign of redemption.
For more class, we're talking about a guy who signed up at this website just to ask for all of our advice on things, and then promptly announce he was going to attempt to directly to compete with us by telling people his website was the only viable choice. Once again, real class act. A sign of redemption for sure.
If I stabbed you, apologized, and then took your wallet... Why the hell would you forgive me?
I know you have trouble seeing peoples failings, but this guy is full of them. The only reason he is even with Master now is because he somehow managed to get himself banned off of most public websites through his sheer vulgarity and disrespect, and even earned himself an entirely dark reputation with private organizations like CGS. He is with Master, because he has no other place to go. Not because he is trying to redeem himself.
I would also reckon the only reason he apologized for that tournament is because he knows all of this, and was getting the evil eye from Master after that event gave him a negative image. Can't afford to piss off the boss, right?
I'd love a world where JR wasn't completely disrespectful with the agenda of "me me me". Unfortunately that world is not reality, and he has not once given me any reason to think otherwise.
Berzerk!
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You imply this anyway, but it's worth breaking this out and making note - that the scene for DOAU and DOA4 online were taking place in a very different time. The changes that have occured in the fighting game scene with every other fighting game now having online play, and the worldwide streaming audience has raised the level of consciousness about online vs offline play, so that this argument about offline being the only real place for competition need not be proven.
It's considered common knowledge, it's fair to say. Just one of the things that shows DOA5 is a whole new proposition since the greater FGC has changed.
Raansu
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You obviously weren't around during the whole debacle then. The majority of the DoA community is a different breed from other FGC's. Most of them are in the mindset of the people that gather at doaw and if you tell them online means nothing, they will have a temper tantrum about it. They are the definition of scrubs, and sadly, that's the large majority of the DoA player base, which is why I'm grateful to Mr. Wah for making this site geared more towards a more gameplay centric forum where conversations are a bit more serious when it comes to DoA.
And the other half is just trolls like JR who makes sex jokes constantly and will never really be taken seriously.
Rikuto
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The way you quell the online vs offline conflict is by never allowing it to take place.
You make it very clear from the get-go that online play is fun, however not legitimate from a competitive standpoint. The easiest way to do this is by having every community leader, regardless of website or faction, stand on this point unilaterally. That way every time someone speaks out, they are quickly shut down by the community leaders and everyone that stands behind them.
Personally if I was a moderator and someone tried saying they were better than an offline player, I would give them one warning and then a permanent ban.
Can't cause an issue if you don't exist.
You make it very clear from the get-go that online play is fun, however not legitimate from a competitive standpoint. The easiest way to do this is by having every community leader, regardless of website or faction, stand on this point unilaterally. That way every time someone speaks out, they are quickly shut down by the community leaders and everyone that stands behind them.
Personally if I was a moderator and someone tried saying they were better than an offline player, I would give them one warning and then a permanent ban.
Can't cause an issue if you don't exist.
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