Fighting Games Break Friendships

TakedaZX

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Haha. Dead or Alive has official soiled my friendship with my bestfriend/roommate/brother...so I use to call him. At this moment I officially don't know what I'll do.

Things started back during the summer of last year when I got kicked out by my Dad. I ended up not having a place to go so his Mom, who offered to have me come live with them, picked me up and helped me get my things together. Unfortunately things got heavy and we ended up having to move over states. By that time me and my "bro" had already developed a interest in my Soul Calibur 4 game. We'd spend hours creating FF characters, Grand Chase Characters, we even made ourselves, and people in our circle, including his girlfriend and the girl I was interested in at the time.

But with everything good, there's always a bad side. I use to rage. Before I played with him, I had a friend(I said the same thing in my introduction about this), and this friend who was actually/still is one of my bestfriends. Dead or Alive damn near soiled our friendship. He was so good at everything, timing, using moves to crush, holding. To top it all off, he never had even came to know DOACentral, or you guy's tactics, he just picked it up. I had to study, and I went from low level, mediocre level player in no time, and I kept growing.

He also rages. Same reason as me... except still different. I like to study tactics and train combos into muscle memory. He doesn't. He likes to have fun. I like that mentality, but I play with the competitive style that we all do here. So I mean obviously I'm going to have a better chance, I understand the concepts, the foundation of a fighting game. That's how I beat him.

Today. We played. Scoreboard was 16-2. Why only 2? He started spamming a hhm kick combo with rid, that had a lot of range, and I admit I was getting a bit grabby in the matches. On top of that, I still don't fully understand Hitomi, but I understand the concepts. My problem was I had no high crush moves in my arsenal. Usually I stick with sweeps but Hitomi's 2H+K isn't a low sweep kick, it's a standing sweep. Eventually I picked up on sidestepping and 2P+King his string and I came back.

After I won twice, my girl of interest called me. She asked what I was doing and I said playing a game with my "bro", and he said some snark comment, you could tell by his tone. See, I was slightly already heated, because he spammed the combo. I want him to grow as a player you know? Not fall back when things get hard, and THAT is the actual reason, not the combo, but I know I couldn't force him to agree with me... and that's why I adapted instead of going to Eliot and wrecking his shit, cause God knows he can't touch my Eliot(I'm not pro at Eliot, he's just someone I'm more familiar with than Hitomi.

So he said the comment, and then I almost let it go, but something snapped in me, and I told the girl, "hold on", then turned to him and said, "what'd you say", and backed off and said "nothing", he always does this shit to me. So kept on it "what'd you say man, just say it", and he said "I don't need too", so I'm like "fuck it", and I proceeded to toss the controller and tell him to "grow up, it's a damn game". I went and walked out the house slamming the door behind me and I went back to talking to the girl. She asked what was up and I let her know. We talked about it and she told me to just go in and go to sleep, and let it pass.

I didn't want to fight him(we didn't fight, thank God), but I was afraid that with his anger issues, he might pull something, I just didn't know if it'd get physical. After talking to her and her cooling me off(<3), I went back. Step back 15 minutes before, he sent me a text after I walked out:
Him: "Tell me to grow up. I'll show you imature"
Me: "And how will that be?"
Him: "You'll see ;)"

Fast forward 16 minutes, as expected, he locked me out. I was glad that, that was all. But even still, "immature" right(least I know how to spell it), so I call my sis and ask her to unlock it,(she's younger), he says to her as she walks out of her room, no. Then the guy sends me another text: "Call me imature and so it shall be from the all knowing "enter my name here".", and so, I proceeded to plan B. I told the girl I'd call her back, called up our Mom and explained the situation. She called him and chewed him out for it then gave him and me both the same talk separately(over the phone cause she was out of town), and I apologized while he said and I quote, "I understand what you're saying but I don't agree". I assume he meant he didn't think he was wrong in doing it. Hmmm. Well what can I say other then it's whatever, ya know?

I agree with our Mom. Were 19. We should be having this shit happen. God I didn't even expect it to go this far! I can control my anger! I've lost it ONCE in my entire life, pure anger and hatred, TOWARDS my best friend, my true best friend. They say you gotta love someone to hate them, and I gotta say it makes sense in that scenario. Me and him patched things up the day after I lost it... that's what kind of friendship we had. Other than that I'm always in control, maybe depressed but I can handle my depression... I pulled myself away from suicidal after realizing the big picture on how I see life, another story for another time.

So the moral of the story is... I'm venting first of all... I'm... cooled off now... and cold from being out IN the cold for longer than I should have, but most of all...

Everyone please stay chill when you play games with your friends, you gotta understand that when people really want to improve, they will, and there's always gunna be someone out there that's better than you. It's a fact, unless you're the best, and you can claim that until you're blue in the face, but nothing is forever. If you're about winning, learn concepts of Fighting Games. Things like not whiffing an unsafe high move on someone who's ducking a lot, how to crush, what a safe move is, what low crushing can do for you... Learn your match ups, learn your movelist most of all, and learn how to enjoy what you do.

So... alright... that's all, comment if you like, maybe you can give me and some other people some good advice and input. I apologize if general discussion isn't a good section for this... but I needed to just drop this, I just wanna talk so once again, hmu here, or in a conversation.
 

TakedaZX

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[Update]
My attitude is changing... about this whole deal... locking me out was ridiculous but I seemed to have the same kinds of problems when I lived with my Dad.

I guess the main thing that makes you grow as a person is realizing your faults and problems then fixing them. Sometimes I think living alone would better suit things. I guess I'll have to make that my next goal...
 

Brute

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You both have serious anger management issues. No offense intended, but that kind of juvenile behavior would never have been tolerated in my household.
 

TakedaZX

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You both have serious anger management issues. No offense intended, but that kind of juvenile behavior would never have been tolerated in my household.
Offense taken, but the response is understandable. I felt that I handled it better than I probably did, by walking away. I haven't snapped in over 3 years, and before that point, never. Doesn't change the nature of the situation that happened.
 

TakedaZX

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O_O
EDIT: forgot to mention, i used to play grand chase :D
do you play rumble fighter?
Dem double post. Nah I almost got into rumble fighter but nothing stood out to me. Grand Chase was good but is now unfortunately dying ya know? What was your name on there?
 

Tokkosho

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On GC it was Tamisu... im pretty sure. i lost interest when EVERYTHING was about either paying out with money for stuff or being a super hardcore fan that plays 10 hrs a day.
that was a creepily fast response from me >.<
 

TakedaZX

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On GC it was Tamisu... im pretty sure. i lost interest when EVERYTHING was about either paying out with money for stuff or being a super hardcore fan that plays 10 hrs a day.
that was a creepily fast response from me >.<
Yea. I started cashing and actually getting really good at pvp in it, then I just hit a stand still and quit.
 

BlasianBorn

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When I play a game with a friend (boy/girl doesn't matter) and I know I'm much more skilled at the game than them, I go easy on them so they can enjoy the game as well. No one likes to lose and some take losing differently and get frustrated a lot easier than others. A lot of my local friends and best friends aren't as good at fighting games as I am and when we play I make sure they're having fun too ( I make sure I don't give them an easy win though too :p) I also have a friend I play online with all the time on fighting games. This is his first DOA and I'm trying to make sure he learns the system and enjoys the game (he tends to get frustrated quite easy.)

IMO you just need to learn when to go into your competitive and casual mode when you're playing with certain people. If your "girl of interest" wanted to play DOA5, would you still be in competitive mode? I would hope not. It's all about the fun anyways.
Sorry to hear that things had to end up that way btw.
 

Chaos

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Offense taken, but the response is understandable. I felt that I handled it better than I probably did, by walking away. I haven't snapped in over 3 years, and before that point, never. Doesn't change the nature of the situation that happened.
Thats a good thing to do, walk away from the rage area. Don't put your anger against your friends or family because you'll regret BIG TIME and feel stupid/sorry about it. Ok, Ima tell you about myself a little bit, back than I had some serious anger issues but unfortunately this has nothing to do about losing my respect from my friends/family members. When I lose very badly I'll slam the controller on the ground, throw it across the wall & scream out of frustration. Also when I was playing Sonic Heros on PS2, I remember being stuck fighting against the final boss (Dr. Eggman lol) I've gotting so mad I ejected the game and ending up
bitting the disc, but what make things worse I only had it for week & my grandmother paid $49.99 for it!!! :eek: But now I don't that retarded crap anymore & thats why my PS3 controller NEVER had any technical problems because I know how to control my anger. :)
 

BlasianBorn

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Thats a good thing to do, walk away from the rage area. Don't put your anger against your friends or family because you'll regret BIG TIME and feel stupid/sorry about it. Ok, Ima tell you about myself a little bit, back than I had some serious anger issues but unfortunately this has nothing to do about losing my respect from my friends/family members. When I lose very badly I'll slam the controller on the ground, throw it across the wall & scream out of frustration. Also when I was playing Sonic Heros on PS2, I remember being stuck fighting against the final boss (Dr. Eggman lol) I've gotting so mad I ejected the game and ending up
bitting the disc, but what make things worse I only had it for week & my grandmother paid $49.99 for it!!! :eek: But now I don't that retarded crap anymore & thats why my PS3 controller NEVER had any technical problems because I know how to control my anger. :)
I guess that's why you're named Chaos? LOL
 

akhi216

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You can't worry about someone else's growth as a player. It will come in due time. It's not given for everyone to play at a level of your liking at your call. Let him do him and worry about punishing his combo spams. No disrespect but if you can't figure out how to stop/counter a combo spam, then how do you expect him to grow as a player at your beck and call when you need to grow as a player yourself?
 

TakedaZX

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You can't worry about someone else's growth as a player. It will come in due time. It's not given for everyone to play at a level of your liking at your call. Let him do him and worry about punishing his combo spams. No disrespect but if you can't figure out how to stop/counter a combo spam, then how do you expect him to grow as a player at your beck and call when you need to grow as a player yourself?
There's always room for growth as a player akhi. I'd like to see you do something other than turtle back as far as you can and throw that block breaking kick with Lisa cause there's oh so much more to Lisa, I sure can tell you that.


I'm not asking him to grow at my beck and call either. I'm trying to explain why certain situations happen, why things high crush or low crush, what an evasive move looks like, why whiffing is bad. Is that bad to teach someone?

The combo in particular launches on the second making me have to take every bit of it. It was Zack's standing kkkk, mixed with grabs.
 

akhi216

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TakedaZX said:
There's always room for growth as a player akhi. I'd like to see you do something other than turtle back as far as you can and throw that block breaking kick with Lisa cause there's oh so much more to Lisa, I sure can tell you that.
That's a personal issue. Everyone doesn't have to play the same way all of the time. When I play with Lisa I work to set up throws, there are things I do to do that, some of which I find effective against certain players (like yourself for example, don't take it the wrong way). If I do something to a player and I see that they can't stop it, I don't see any reason why I should not do it every chance I get. Against some players those setups don't work, so I try different things. Now if a time comes where a player like yourself starts countering those setups then I simply won't use them and try something else instead.

TakedaZX said:
I'm not asking him to grow at my beck and call either. I'm trying to explain why certain situations happen, why things high crush or low crush, what an evasive move looks like, why whiffing is bad. Is that bad to teach someone?
Why not just use high/low crushes and evasive moves on him when the time arises and punish his whiffs to show him?


TakedaZX said:
The combo in particular launches on the second making me have to take every bit of it. It was Zack's standing kkkk, mixed with grabs.
That second kick bounds off the ground. You should be anticipate the first kick and intercept it with an appropriate high crush in order to effectively teach him about low crushes. The second kick can be held.

Look bro, if he's found a gaping hole in your defense that he's able to exploit with relentlessness, and you want to teach him sone things, you must first patch that hole.
 

Scornwell

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ITT:
When I lose very badly I'll slam the controller on the ground, throw it across the wall & scream out of frustration. Also when I was playing Sonic Heros on PS2, I remember being stuck fighting against the final boss (Dr. Eggman lol) I've gotting so mad I ejected the game and ending up
bitting the disc, but what make things worse I only had it for week & my grandmother paid $49.99 for it!!!
Jesus Christ I almost pooped myself laughing at this...
 
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