Omegan Eckhart
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Does that include slow escaping? You should always test on fastest or fast at least to see if it is guaranteed.
Helena combo thread
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Nuke-Nin
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hmm I hadn't checked those settings although i changed those from prior experiments with Helena
Omegan Eckhart
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She has a lot of easy CB combo's when you don't factor in slow escaping. 3PPP by itself gets the job done.
It's always good to prepare for the worst case scenario just so you don't try to go for a set up that won't work.
9P2K > K > CB is a good example of this, regardless of how hard they slow escape if I hit this combo I know CB will land. It's the same with 33P4P > 6PP > CB.
When ever I test out combo's I always make sure Always Counter Hit is [ON] AI teching is [ON] and Stagger Escape is set to Fastest or Fast. That way if I find anything I can be confident it will work 99.9% of the time.
It's always good to prepare for the worst case scenario just so you don't try to go for a set up that won't work.
9P2K > K > CB is a good example of this, regardless of how hard they slow escape if I hit this combo I know CB will land. It's the same with 33P4P > 6PP > CB.
When ever I test out combo's I always make sure Always Counter Hit is [ON] AI teching is [ON] and Stagger Escape is set to Fastest or Fast. That way if I find anything I can be confident it will work 99.9% of the time.
Batcommander
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this is exactly how i test shit too.
Pokerking87
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Which juggle is the best for her Air throw?
ninjaguy446
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Away from wall:
BKO F+P 4PPK 33P4P
Near wall:
BKO F+P P 66KP[P]
BKO F+P 236PK 236PKP
You can do the ones that are near the wall away from the wall but you can't do the one away from the wall near the wall because you'll get a wall splat before the combo is finished. Hope this helps!
ninjaguy446
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Quick question, I've seen people using 8PP2P for awhile now; why is that? I mean, wouldn't 33P4P be better for her PFTs and ground game and pressure? Does it do more damage? What are its benefits? Was it used during the time period that her PFTs were nerfed?
ninjaguy446
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Ah okay. So if the last hit is a force tech then what's the point of handslaps and her PFTs? Should we all be using 8PP2P as a staple ender? Or does it not leave Helena in the advantage that her handslaps do with her PFTs?
Omegan Eckhart
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You can just mash out 4PPK > 33P4P, 4PPK > 8PP2P requires a delay so the timing is harder. Most people just go for the easier one.
Vie du Soleil
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Also 8k, BKO 4pk 33p4p is possible after her BKO throw and does 1 pt more damage than the 4ppk 33p4p combo. The timing is slightly wonky after 8k but nowhere near as strict as the 8pp2p set up.
Doug Nguyen
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This sounds much easier than BKO F+P P BKO 4PK 33P4P. Does the 8K work near walls, or does it hit the wall?
Omegan Eckhart
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XV MR ARMANI
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I like to do BKO F+P > 33P > BKO 4PK > 33P4P and I think it does more damage.
Doug Nguyen
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Yeah It does. I always drop the BKO 4pk part!!
Vie du Soleil
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Just for clarification!
BKO F+P, 8K, (BKO) 4PK, 33P4P, (BKO) 6P=69 dmg
BKO F+P, 33P, 2P+K, (BKO) 4PK, 33P4P, (BKO) 6P=69 dmg
BKO F+P, 8K, (BKO) 4PK, 33P4P, (BKO) 6P=69 dmg
BKO F+P, 33P, 2P+K, (BKO) 4PK, 33P4P, (BKO) 6P=69 dmg
Doug Nguyen
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Yah Xcal uses that a lot. But cant they counter the delayed P? And it puts them almost at max threshold so what the best move to do next? 9K?