Launching attacks that position switch

[Matt Ponton]

So I was messing around in training mode today and noticed something peculiar:

Kasumi's Kick launches the opponent, but the first hit isn't considered a juggle state. What this means is if she gets the hold off with her back to the wall she can do or or and the opponent will wall crumple off the wall allowing a free launcher.

If you however launch the opponent and do as a juggle it will actually be a wall slam granting no additional juggle.

I find this strange and never knew about this before.

I can't test what happens in juggle state without a wall for the three moves as I can't seem to launch high enough to do it anyways. Testing in tag mode allows me to get the necessary height but it doesn't cause it. So it has to be some weird property off her mid kick hold.

It should be noted that if the attack is too far from the wall it won't wall crumple, but will do a wall slam based on the knockback distance property.

 

[Matt Ponton]

Just noticed Hayate's mid kick hold does the same exact thing. Seems to be related to launching attacks that position switch as Ayane's doesn't allow this.

 

[Matt Ponton]

Although it should... it doesn't appear to work with Hayabusa's Izuna counter holds... possibly because it's a combo hold?

 

[target1995]

what about Christie's down punch counter would that work?

 

[Matt Ponton]

I don't know. I can check.

Edit: No because it doesn't do a position switch. Kasumi and Hayate both do a launcher sending them over their back putting them in temp back turned state. Christie rolls over top of them but launches them in the same position.

 

[grap3fruitman]

How could you possibly consider using something like this that's clearly an unintended feature and a glitch?

 

[LivingShadow]

Any chance you could put video of this up?

 

[Matt Ponton]

My capture card hasn't been working with DOA3 for some reason. I'll try fooling with the settings again to see it.

 

[UncleKitchener]

Just happened to me a few times. Looks a bit weird and I'm not sure if we'll be seeing something like this is doa5.

 

[Black Dragon]

I actually thought this was old news.

 

[grap3fruitman]

It might be but very little in terms of 3.1 strategy is documented anywhere.

 

[Matt Ponton]

I actually thought this was old news.

Nothing is old news when it comes to 3.1! We (re)discover all the time! Like the Limbo Stun option select for example.

 

[Black Dragon]

Limbo Stun option select?

People be hacking into 3.1, huh?

 

[Raansu]

Limbo Stun option select?

People be hacking into 3.1, huh?

Hacking?

 

[UncleKitchener]

I think he's joking.

Then again, there's not much to option select with limbo stuns. Crumple stuns on the other hand are my personal favourite.

Regarding general documentation in doa, I swear doa has the least number of good useful sources. It's like you don't really want people to know about any of these useful bit of information. I know that's supposed to be the typical east coast mentality, but come on.

If I go to places like VFDC of TekkenZaibatsu, they have other sources and useful links all over. If I go to any other Doa site other than FSD, it's either about love pillow talk or who had the best bikini. Now, that is kinda sad.

 

[Matt Ponton]

Now, that is kinda sad.

I know!

Everyone knows that Ayane has the best bikini, duh.

 

[Raansu]

I think he's joking.

Then again, there's not much to option select with limbo stuns. Crumple stuns on the other hand are my personal favourite.

Regarding general documentation in doa, I swear doa has the least number of good useful sources. It's like you don't really want people to know about any of these useful bit of information. I know that's supposed to be the typical east coast mentality, but come on.

If I go to places like VFDC of TekkenZaibatsu, they have other sources and useful links all over. If I go to any other Doa site other than FSD, it's either about love pillow talk or who had the best bikini. Now, that is kinda sad.

Unfortunately most of the good information we had was lost from doac. Much of the doa2u/3.1 stuff got deleted years ago, and whats left was thrown into TKP, which is mostly useless doa4 information. Sadly the doac community was pretty terrible, which is why it didn't survive after cgs bombed (that and because doa4 is garbage), and doaw is well...ya they just kinda stay in their little corner and pretend that Kasumi is real.

 

[UncleKitchener]

There needs to be more bitching in the next podcast. Grape, when is the next podcast coming along?

I know!

Everyone knows that Ayane has the best bikini, duh.

Ayana is just a weird character with really weird costumes. Funny thing is that she's the only original character in the series (in my opinion), while every other character is either based on an existing trope or obvious figure/character.