Petition to bring back LEON as DLC!

Would you like to have Leon and Ein DLC?

  • Hell yes!! Bring back the Strongest Man in the World !

    Votes: 161 75.9%
  • No, let him die the desert from dehydration..

    Votes: 51 24.1%

  • Total voters
    212
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Takeda-sama

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people can talk about popularity and character usage all they want but this thread proves leon fans have the loudest voices and dedication to his return, hell this is the most active topic in the entire forums with over 550 replies and is home to the most hilarious photoshops on this site. there is no way TN ain't seeing this shit and laughing their asses off and peaking their interest just a little bit into bringing him back. you ein/tengu fans need to step it up because if this site is TN's indicator of whos the most requested and "deserves" to come back then the choice would be obvious.

either way u fellow leon fans keep up the good work, im pretty much done with this game and have no desire to bother with it anymore and hopefully TN isn't as clueless and incompetent as they make themselves out to be and he along with ein/tengu return as dlc eventually,
This site obviously has no relevance to the decisions of companies and corporations such as koei or TN, making your comment rather silly. =/ I also found it incredibly hilarious that you call TN 'clueless and incompetent'. They have created a whole franchise out of ninja gaiden and doa. The idea that creating something as large as the doa series in itself is even possible when TN are supposedly 'incompetent' is probably the funniest thing I have ever seen anyone testify to, ever.
 

Russian-chiropractic19

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This site obviously has no relevance to the decisions of companies and corporations such as koei or TN, making your comment rather silly. =/ I also found it incredibly hilarious that you call TN 'clueless and incompetent'. They have created a whole franchise out of ninja gaiden and doa. The idea that creating something as large as the doa series in itself is even possible when TN are supposedly 'incompetent' is probably the funniest thing I have ever seen anyone testify to, ever.

The old TN was what made the Ninja Gaiden and DOA franchise.they inherited and proved they honestly have no fucking clue when it came to NG.that said DOA came out fine it seems
 

XZero264

FSD | Nichol
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Kwon - I thought Leon's 9P had him headbutting, but they are remarkably similar.
That's his P+K. His 9P is pretty similar to Mila's, Leon's movelist pretty much got divided between Mila and Bayman though Bayman has been getting more and more of it over the years (Tag throw with Gen Fu...).

Speaking of Tag Throws, yeah not in the right thread, I wish TN had kept it with the DOA2H system, 66H+P+K and 4H+P+K for team throws. I prefer to not involuntarily swap characters with a reactionary neutral throw that I tend to do a lot on opponent whiffs (or by pressing any button for that matter when playing Tag multiplayer, that kinda pissed me off to find out how that worked. Wish that was kept as H+P+K when swapped out). But at least now you can swap your partner back in when playing multiplayer Tag instead of relying on them to know when to get in (4 and D). Also, needs Team Battles, those were fun too.

My favorite moves have been Grenade Arm, 4inputthrow (actually apparently called the "Dervish Throw" which makes sense), Crab Scissors (his old drop grab that Bayman got), Headbutt, and his mid-air throw (provided you can set up for it right which really isn't hard).

*Hopelessly stuck in the DOA2 Hardcore age mechanics, damn 10 years has been a long time to play them*
 

DontForkWitMe

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This site obviously has no relevance to the decisions of companies and corporations such as koei or TN, making your comment rather silly. =/ I also found it incredibly hilarious that you call TN 'clueless and incompetent'. They have created a whole franchise out of ninja gaiden and doa. The idea that creating something as large as the doa series in itself is even possible when TN are supposedly 'incompetent' is probably the funniest thing I have ever seen anyone testify to, ever.

you can laugh all you want TN IS clueless and incompetent, just because you have low standards and horrible taste doesn't change the fact that they screwed up the NG series with the NG3 which was a massive failure critically and commercially, not to mention the series went completely downhill after itagaki left, dumbing down the gameplay, taking out the gore, shoehorning in a bunch of female characters to cater to sexual deviants(i mean one of of ninja gaiden sigma 2's exclusive features and shaking their tits with the sixaxis, really?) NG:black was the high point of the series and has gone downhill ever since thanks the TN incompetence and cluelessness

As for DOA, after 7years after DOA4 and giving false hope to fans with pre-release builds that gave characters amazing tools, a sidestepping system that wasn't trash, and unholdable stuns they then backpedal on all of that rushing out whats essentially DOA4.5 with terrible netcode, bug ridden glitches, unbalanced cast where a majority of the roster cant even use the new gameplay features or take advantage of them in a meaningful way that doesn't involve constant guessing, nickel and dimeing people with overpriced worthless rehashed costume dlc.

hell they even managed to screw up a metroid game with the failure other m.so yeah they're still incompetent and clueless no matter what you think

end of discussion

now back on topic
 

Takeda-sama

Member
you can laugh all you want TN IS clueless and incompetent, just because you have low standards and horrible taste doesn't change the fact that they screwed up the NG series with the NG3 which was a massive failure critically and commercially, not to mention the series went completely downhill after itagaki left, dumbing down the gameplay, taking out the gore, shoehorning in a bunch of female characters to cater to sexual deviants(i mean one of of ninja gaiden sigma 2's exclusive features and shaking their tits with the sixaxis, really?) NG:black was the high point of the series and has gone downhill ever since thanks the TN incompetence and cluelessness

As for DOA, after 7years after DOA4 and giving false hope to fans with pre-release builds that gave characters amazing tools, a sidestepping system that wasn't trash, and unholdable stuns they then backpedal on all of that rushing out whats essentially DOA4.5 with terrible netcode, bug ridden glitches, unbalanced cast where a majority of the roster cant even use the new gameplay features or take advantage of them in a meaningful way that doesn't involve constant guessing, nickel and dimeing people with overpriced worthless rehashed costume dlc.

hell they even managed to screw up a metroid game with the failure other m.so yeah they're still incompetent and clueless no matter what you think

end of discussion

now back on topic
You play the exact same game as me yet you say I have low standards? Bit of a logic issue there. That aside, it's no easy task to create a game like DOA5 without running into a couple of problems (ie net code). Thats why they are creating that patch in March. Lmao. Just because they screwed a couple things up doesn't make them 'incompetent'. You're just another rambling hater who likes to complain about everything to the dismay of everyone around you. If you think the costume DLC's are a sign of incompetence then thats hysterical. If people BUY the costume DLC's thats just a sign of their ability to increase revenue and I'll tell you right now in case you didn't already know, people BUY those DLC's. Thats just an accreditation to their marketing skills. So what if they use sex appeal in some of those games? Sex appeal is a method of marketing that has been proven time and time again to WORK. Thank you for demonstrating to us that the people in TN's head office have business degrees.
 

SilverKhaos

Active Member
Dude, a firemans carry back breaker? Leons supposed to be a military type. Do you see a problem with something that ridiculous? A firemans carry slam kinda like WWE's 'Samoan drop' might make a bit more sense I guess, but picking a person up in a firemans carry and snapping their spine like that video is just ridiculous and wouldn't work on someone half your size in real life. I know doa has some surrelaism in it but the whole point of Leon as a character is that hes a brutal paramilitary fighter confined to relatively realistic moves.

His signature moves involve effortlessly sending his opponent flying by either doing a one armed swing, or just picking them up and hurling them like a javelin. His moves are mostly focused around how simply STRONG he is. And just picking them up and breaking their spine over his shoulders would suit him pretty well, to be honest.
 

Takeda-sama

Member
His signature moves involve effortlessly sending his opponent flying by either doing a one armed swing, or just picking them up and hurling them like a javelin. His moves are mostly focused around how simply STRONG he is. And just picking them up and breaking their spine over his shoulders would suit him pretty well, to be honest.
Thats exactly why DOA5 is better without him. Picking someone up and throwing them like a javelin shouldn't exist as a fighting move even in fiction. -.-
 

synce

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Or how about falling from a skyscraper >_>

And if you want to talk cool moves it begins and ends with Tengu. My buddy can scrait up change the season by stomping his feet.
 

EMPEROR_COW

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Thats exactly why DOA5 is better without him. Picking someone up and throwing them like a javelin shouldn't exist as a fighting move even in fiction. -.-

And teleporting ninjas shooting fireballs out their asses should ?
just sayin ...

By your logic .. bass shouldn't even be air juggled.. >__>

ITS STILL POSSIBLE GUYS .. THERES ALWAYS DOA5+ !!!

WE NEED TO SHOW THOSE PANSIES HOW MUCH LEON MEANS TO US !!!

TO YOUR BATTLESTATIONS (.. err Twitters/Facebooks :p ) WARRIORS !!
 

PJudge

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Thats exactly why DOA5 is better without him. Picking someone up and throwing them like a javelin shouldn't exist as a fighting move even in fiction. -.-

Considering the Izuna Drop, the Jurassic Throw, any of the ninjas power blows, or the cliffhanger throws, that is just a ridiculous thing to say. Throwing someone like a javelin pales in comparison.
 

Takeda-sama

Member
And teleporting ninjas shooting fireballs out their asses should ?
just sayin ...

By your logic .. bass shouldn't even be air juggled.. >__>

ITS STILL POSSIBLE GUYS .. THERES ALWAYS DOA5+ !!!

WE NEED TO SHOW THOSE PANSIES HOW MUCH LEON MEANS TO US !!!

TO YOUR BATTLESTATIONS (.. err Twitters/Facebooks :p ) WARRIORS !!
Considering the Izuna Drop, the Jurassic Throw, any of the ninjas power blows, or the cliffhanger throws, that is just a ridiculous thing to say. Throwing someone like a javelin pales in comparison.
Ninja's are supposed to have fictional fighting styles anyway. Leon is supposed to have a serious paramilitary fighting style within the boundaries of realistic physics. In terms of perfect physics, nobody should be air juggled, but that is a minor issue in comparison to a character who has (largely) an unrealistic move set but is yet supposed to be a paramilitary fighter. Leon's unrealistic moves are not necessary for the competitive nature of the game. Air juggles are.
 

EMPEROR_COW

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Ninja's are supposed to have fictional fighting styles anyway. Leon is supposed to have a serious paramilitary fighting style within the boundaries of realistic physics. In terms of perfect physics, nobody should be air juggled, but that is a minor issue in comparison to a character who has (largely) an unrealistic move set but is yet supposed to be a paramilitary fighter. Leon's unrealistic moves are not necessary for the competitive nature of the game. Air juggles are.

Excuse me ?
Just look at Bayman, Mr. Realistic... If a person rolls like fucking sonic the hedgehog in real life he'll get stuffed ..
Look at Bass .. the dude flies with the opponent on his back, just to slam them into the ground ..
And I am yet to see a kick boxer do a Blanka ball in a real fight.
Plus, any 1 of any of their moves would mean the end of an actual human.

If being realistic is your damn argument then you've lost before it started.

The lack of Leon is not just about the loss of his move set. Its about his charisma, his story, his ideals.
(and that epic turban :p)

ROLAND ... ARE YOU WATCHING ? ... (*tear rolls down cheek) :(
 

DontForkWitMe

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Ninja's are supposed to have fictional fighting styles anyway. Leon is supposed to have a serious paramilitary fighting style within the boundaries of realistic physics. In terms of perfect physics, nobody should be air juggled, but that is a minor issue in comparison to a character who has (largely) an unrealistic move set but is yet supposed to be a paramilitary fighter. Leon's unrealistic moves are not necessary for the competitive nature of the game. Air juggles are.


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its obvious this guy is just trolling now at this point. just pay the idiot no mind
 

PJudge

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its obvious this guy is just trolling now at this point. just pay the idiot no mind
I was going to reply to him, but gave up in the end. If he's going to pick out one move and say that it's one step too far but ignore other examples that shoot down his argument, then he can argue with himself.

Epic gif though
 

Takeda-sama

Member
Excuse me ?
Just look at Bayman, Mr. Realistic... If a person rolls like fucking sonic the hedgehog in real life he'll get stuffed ..
Look at Bass .. the dude flies with the opponent on his back, just to slam them into the ground ..
And I am yet to see a kick boxer do a Blanka ball in a real fight.
Plus, any 1 of any of their moves would mean the end of an actual human.

If being realistic is your damn argument then you've lost before it started.

The lack of Leon is not just about the loss of his move set. Its about his charisma, his story, his ideals.
(and that epic turban :p)

ROLAND ... ARE YOU WATCHING ? ... (*tear rolls down cheek) :(
Actually that move of Bayman's is pretty realistic. Lol. I'll concede the Blanka ball though. Lol The difference as far as I am concerned is thats one move out of the entire move set. You can't make a character and claim they do a proper martial art then include a whole bunch of physically impossible moves. A single move and an entire move set are different stories altogether.
 
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