Famous Frauds.
Say whaaaaat? What is going on here?
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Chris Harris
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PL,and Mamba did the best concerning DoA4's life span. The amount of entries is moot within the world of DoA so we always went with who was always where at a tournament.
Master placed yes but he usually lost to one of those 3 if all were present and he was usually in the middle or the bottom from what I can remember.
Now not to say HE was personally setting brackets but at DiD he usually got a cake walk of a bracket while all the other named players were duking it out in his tournaments. I would say MASTER's best showing was at DOATEC in VA when literally all the comp was there but he still managed to lose to PL.
Even with the CGI's if you look at the brackets you're just amazed at the bracket he got and the bracket everyone else got. We all know the cards were heavily stacked against PL with being on the bridge against Busa in a start over round set each time. It's just how it is sometimes but to take that ONE win and then take away their MANY wins is kinda messed up. Considering MASTER called 90% of the shots concerning what happened within the DoA community.
All I'm saying is you guys have listened to MASTER all these years and it has gotten this game no where but Money and Fame in his pocket. No one else is benefiting from that game except him, you wouldn't even think a PL, Mamba, Offbeat, NinjaCW, or Rikuto even existed if we didn't plague the forums and try to get some changes. That's the problem no one is given opportunity or credit until MASTER gets his and by the time the circle comes to you he's bled it dry to the point it's not even worth it.
Please stop fighting/debating over these things, let's move forward and hope we can push the game forward. Let's see what happens at E3 then wait for the game to drop and see how it is before we make any rash choices.
Master placed yes but he usually lost to one of those 3 if all were present and he was usually in the middle or the bottom from what I can remember.
Now not to say HE was personally setting brackets but at DiD he usually got a cake walk of a bracket while all the other named players were duking it out in his tournaments. I would say MASTER's best showing was at DOATEC in VA when literally all the comp was there but he still managed to lose to PL.
Even with the CGI's if you look at the brackets you're just amazed at the bracket he got and the bracket everyone else got. We all know the cards were heavily stacked against PL with being on the bridge against Busa in a start over round set each time. It's just how it is sometimes but to take that ONE win and then take away their MANY wins is kinda messed up. Considering MASTER called 90% of the shots concerning what happened within the DoA community.
All I'm saying is you guys have listened to MASTER all these years and it has gotten this game no where but Money and Fame in his pocket. No one else is benefiting from that game except him, you wouldn't even think a PL, Mamba, Offbeat, NinjaCW, or Rikuto even existed if we didn't plague the forums and try to get some changes. That's the problem no one is given opportunity or credit until MASTER gets his and by the time the circle comes to you he's bled it dry to the point it's not even worth it.
Please stop fighting/debating over these things, let's move forward and hope we can push the game forward. Let's see what happens at E3 then wait for the game to drop and see how it is before we make any rash choices.
D Glock
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I'm going to chime in on a little something, especially regarding to Rikuto's comments. A few weeks back, I made a response noting that I was done with DoAC/TKP moving forward. It has now been made official. I called Morris not too long ago and told him that I was done.
I basically told him, in a nutshell, that there was no hope for their new website, and that he had lost a stronghold on the community. I told him one of the biggest turn-offs about the site is Manny himself. I told him I've been hearing a lot of talk, and it seems that their new site is nothing but a playground for Manny. But, of course, he believed otherwise, saying everyone has just been ganging up on Manny for no reason, mostly out of jealousy and that they're going to continue to move forward with their site without the need of competing with anyone.
Morris got so carried away talking about the possibility of the site's potential and Manny that I didn't even bother explaining to him my other half of the story for not wanting to work with them anymore. I just decided to let the conversation come to an end. He had also mentioned to me that Manny was on the other line.
So here's what I'd like to share with you guys: You all know and are well aware of all the hard work that I provided for these guys back at DoAC. I used to put in a ton of time, making sure that the website wasn't having any issues to the best of my abilities, taking care of users, posting great content, reporting back to Morris at all times. What did I receive for all this? Not a god-damn thing. Was I expecting a paycheck or a handout of some sort? Hell no. I did everything out of the kindness of my heart because I love you guys and our shitty community. Real talk.
All these guys care(d) about and still do, is having D Glock making them look good. I had no idea how selfish these guys were. It didn't really hit me until I was let in on the "big news" that these guys were getting ready to go to Japan for a "secret project" with Team Ninja. You all remember this. I did my hardest to keep it from you guys, up until the moment I broke the news on DoAC's front page. Manny first broke the news to me over Xbox Live and was super-hyped about it, like he always comes off. So after finally breaking the news to everyone, Manny followed up with a YouTube video about the not-so-inspiring trip. In the video, he gave big shoutouts to everyone. Was my name mentioned anywhere? Of course not.
Now here's the greatest part. As always and of course, Manny was the first among us with access to the Dead or Alive 5 demo. Gasp! Big shocker? No way! He had everyone that was a part of his "clique" playing it, Morris included. I'm sure I don't have to state the other names. Anyhow, did these guys even consider the smallest factor of letting myself in on the demo? Especially after everything that I've done for them over the last few years? Once again, of course not. However, here is Manny a week or two later (even recently, check the front page!) on Twitter doing contests and giving away a free code to the demo, just looking for nothing more than an ego booster.
All in all, I still got my hands on the premium demo without dropping a single penny on the turd known as Ninja Gaiden 3. Thanks, Tecmo! Still, I want you guys to see the point that I'm trying to make. See, I thought it was really funny and very interesting when Tom Brady got banned immediately after posting his "truth" video back in the day on DoAC. It was almost as if Morris was trying to hide something. Myself, on the other hand, was definitely getting the overall message at the time that Brady was trying to portray. This is why you have folks like Rikuto, Grap3, and many other DoA vets (insert name here) with a great distaste for Manny and Morris. They all know of the truths and shady-ness behind these two.
Lastly, the picture is more clearer than ever why FreeStepDodge.com exists today. Sorwah and V-Pai, I tip my hat to you both.
-D Glock
-Out
I basically told him, in a nutshell, that there was no hope for their new website, and that he had lost a stronghold on the community. I told him one of the biggest turn-offs about the site is Manny himself. I told him I've been hearing a lot of talk, and it seems that their new site is nothing but a playground for Manny. But, of course, he believed otherwise, saying everyone has just been ganging up on Manny for no reason, mostly out of jealousy and that they're going to continue to move forward with their site without the need of competing with anyone.
Morris got so carried away talking about the possibility of the site's potential and Manny that I didn't even bother explaining to him my other half of the story for not wanting to work with them anymore. I just decided to let the conversation come to an end. He had also mentioned to me that Manny was on the other line.
So here's what I'd like to share with you guys: You all know and are well aware of all the hard work that I provided for these guys back at DoAC. I used to put in a ton of time, making sure that the website wasn't having any issues to the best of my abilities, taking care of users, posting great content, reporting back to Morris at all times. What did I receive for all this? Not a god-damn thing. Was I expecting a paycheck or a handout of some sort? Hell no. I did everything out of the kindness of my heart because I love you guys and our shitty community. Real talk.
All these guys care(d) about and still do, is having D Glock making them look good. I had no idea how selfish these guys were. It didn't really hit me until I was let in on the "big news" that these guys were getting ready to go to Japan for a "secret project" with Team Ninja. You all remember this. I did my hardest to keep it from you guys, up until the moment I broke the news on DoAC's front page. Manny first broke the news to me over Xbox Live and was super-hyped about it, like he always comes off. So after finally breaking the news to everyone, Manny followed up with a YouTube video about the not-so-inspiring trip. In the video, he gave big shoutouts to everyone. Was my name mentioned anywhere? Of course not.
Now here's the greatest part. As always and of course, Manny was the first among us with access to the Dead or Alive 5 demo. Gasp! Big shocker? No way! He had everyone that was a part of his "clique" playing it, Morris included. I'm sure I don't have to state the other names. Anyhow, did these guys even consider the smallest factor of letting myself in on the demo? Especially after everything that I've done for them over the last few years? Once again, of course not. However, here is Manny a week or two later (even recently, check the front page!) on Twitter doing contests and giving away a free code to the demo, just looking for nothing more than an ego booster.
All in all, I still got my hands on the premium demo without dropping a single penny on the turd known as Ninja Gaiden 3. Thanks, Tecmo! Still, I want you guys to see the point that I'm trying to make. See, I thought it was really funny and very interesting when Tom Brady got banned immediately after posting his "truth" video back in the day on DoAC. It was almost as if Morris was trying to hide something. Myself, on the other hand, was definitely getting the overall message at the time that Brady was trying to portray. This is why you have folks like Rikuto, Grap3, and many other DoA vets (insert name here) with a great distaste for Manny and Morris. They all know of the truths and shady-ness behind these two.
Lastly, the picture is more clearer than ever why FreeStepDodge.com exists today. Sorwah and V-Pai, I tip my hat to you both.
-D Glock
-Out
Allan Paris
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Whoa.
Learn something new everyday.
Learn something new everyday.
Took you a bit longer than me but glad you bounced, D Glock. I'm not a fan of doing anything I do for free if it's not being appreciated, either. You've always been a stand-up guy among the rest of the lot. It's kind of liberating being DONE, isn't it?
Relius Starkiller
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I wonder if you'd have responded to this thread had I not put that last little nugget in there.
But I'll humor you - I'm probably only tournament competitive at KOF98 and KOF11 nowadays. I've been told my Ky Kiske in GGAC is tournament caliber. Notice a trend here. . .none of these games are widely played competitively anymore.
And what does tournament level even mean? Go out to Evo this year, enter that SSF4 tournament and chances are decent you'll get a middling player who thinks hes good enough to hang but really isn't.
Are you asking can I win/place in a tournament in any of my games? Sure, just make sure no Mexicans or Japanese players pop their heads in the door.
Can you win a Soul Calibur tournament Rikuto? Of course you can but theres always a caveat
And as far as me putting it out there that you won on counters. . .Rikuto, you've said as much. The only way Bayman wins is on counters and you admit that you don't really slow escape. Ya know who else just counters and doesn't slow escape? Scrubs. . .you're more educated than a run of the mill B- so you're making educated guesses, but you win on counters - period.
I'm his friend? I'm as much his friend as I'm yours. I don't know anyone here, this is just a forum - a place to crack jokes, shoot the shit and get information on a video game that I'm very interested in.
If there is something I'm missing here then I'm all ears because at this very second it just looks like a bunch of you are clique'd up on some hum bug shit that happened 6 years ago. I've admitted that master has an ego, I've admitted that CGS 1 was partially fixed and he had some culpability in it. Was it "convenient" that Master went second overall at the draft and he magically went to the Dallas Venom (Hometown boy), sure but that had as much to do with Master as convenience.
Ya know, I once spread a rumor about KC having an HPV. The very next time I see her I'm going to apologize and I hope she slaps the shit out of me - People change.
Instead of offering the olive branch and giving the guy a chance you low rate his ass anytime he shows his face on this site and then you wonder why hes getting invited to Tecmo and you're not in the loop? You need to wake up and realize how the world works - Theres not enough, they got it, we want it, there can only be one, tiger blood, etc. All of the opportunities you missed out on Rikuto were your doing, you knew the rules of the political and actual game but you chose not to play either with a decent hand and you went bust.
Thats life man.
On a side note I think sWooZie is a questionable character but I doubt any of you would agree but, here it is - he got onto that CGS and CGI on false pretense and does not admit it but at the same time he claims Christianity. Now, this is coming from one of Lucifers bastards, but still I think its a little foul to claim religion and pick n choose where and when you want it to apply its teachings.
Relius Starkiller
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Ya know, thats a sad story and Master and Morris should have included you, but ya know what. . .how many times did you voice your displeasure with being kept out of the loop?
My new boss at work came in a year ago and for the first month I lost all of my usual information streams. Everything went to him first and he dulled out what he felt I needed to do my job properly and to keep me satisfied. Well, a month into this we had a blow up, I got mad, told him what I wanted - he got equally angry and told me to do what I wanted.
I screamed back at him "You're the boss here, I'm your subordinate. All I want is a little more information and latitude to do my job." And ya know what? I got it. Hes still here, I'm still here and we understand what the other wants little bit better.
Speak the fuck up - if you had done this 3 or 4 years ago instead of letting it get to a point where you're so emotionally drained from the experience that you're ready to give up then what was really accomplished?
The community loses their programmer (and a good dude) and all of the effort you've put into the community over the last 7 years is wasted.
Backbone or Menstrual Clock - pick one.
Allan Paris
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Do you even still play that game? I am asking because I distinctly remember playing with you 2 yrs ago, and we were on equal footing. I believe this is the earliest KOF that's on XBLA? Anyways, I for damn sure know I am not decent at that game, I like it though but, I am not good at it. I know your team consists of the 3 African American characters and you were not all that good. Unless you were just fooling around and weren't really playing, which I doubt.
He was apart of the team too close to have to voice anything. The funny thing is, I get what you are getting at but, your personal scenario does not fit this one. You had a new boss come in, a new member of the team. D Glock had always been there along with the same ol' boss, for him to get over looked like that is inexcusable.
Chris Harris
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D Glock was doing hard work BEFORE there was a NinjaCW. I personally know like anyone else, he got no credit and that's mainly because he wasn't a part of Manny's squad.
Like I told everyone if DoA is a good game we won't have to worry about Manny or his group. If the game is bad we will let him keep it and they can have their small little tournaments and no one will care except Manny who is squeezing everything out of people like Relius.
It's 100% wrong how they treat the community and what they do for the community. This is the reason no one is over at his site and we're getting a community going (although it's many of the old heads -_-)
Like I told everyone if DoA is a good game we won't have to worry about Manny or his group. If the game is bad we will let him keep it and they can have their small little tournaments and no one will care except Manny who is squeezing everything out of people like Relius.
It's 100% wrong how they treat the community and what they do for the community. This is the reason no one is over at his site and we're getting a community going (although it's many of the old heads -_-)
You know you're talking about DOA, where you best tool is to hold correctly at every possible point, right? Why are you attacking Rikuto like this is his fault? He didn't design the games and he's made large, informative posts detailing how to actually address this flaw. Do you play DOA without ever holding? If you don't then you're a hypocrite.
Exactly and this is why I'm still upset. Despite everything he's done to hurt the community, he still gets all the preferential treatment from Tecmo and Team Ninja. Why? Why?
Mr. Wah got the demo early too. Does he hog it to himself and some clique? No. The first thing he does is run a stream for 2+ hours detailing changes and answering questions for anyone and everyone interested. Yet Manny is the favorite.
I was banned recently from TKP for hurting Manny's feelings. I said he wasn't a real fan because he didn't own the guide for DOA Dimensions. He banned me for that, not knowing it was actually me under and alternate alias. It was just something else to laugh at. Poke at the guy's ego on his site and face his almighty wrath! Haha.
Honestly, I never understood the dislike for Manny until Tom Brady's videos came out. I had no idea about a lot of this stuff. I had even asked Manny to be on my tiny podcast and we were detailing a time for it when that bombshell hit. Instead, I had Tom Brady on and he detailed all the drama and terrible stuff Manny has done even more. I think I'm more upset because this is newer to me, even more so that he still gets the preferential treatment despite being such a horrible person. That's part of the reason I'm pushing for DOA5 to be really good. So the game and community can grow so big that we forget about the shit-stain on the undies of the DOA community known as Manny. That's why he's so against a lot of the changes people like Rikuto, myself and others want. He doesn't want the game to grow because he knows if there was an actual competitive DOA scene, he wouldn't be able to keep up and forgotten. He can't stand the thought of that happening.
Rikuto
P-P-P-P-P-P-POWER!
If a person possesses the fundamental ability to win at multiple competitive games, you can't be considered a scrub because you've already broken those barriers from multiple angles. Once again, you're not using the word properly, but you sure do love using it. Until you do know how to use it properly, I'd recommend you don't.
Yes, counters are a major part of the way I play in DOA 4 because they are overpowered as hell and everyone knows it. I make no apologies for playing to win. That's the exact opposite of what a scrub would do. You on the other hand are basically preaching that if this is all a person is doing, even if it works for him, he must be a scrub. You are actually showing how much of a scrub you are because you're allowing yourself to be pinned up by mental barriers and constructs which disallow a method of play.
If you have your own made up idea of what a scrub is based on repetition, I'll help you out with the actual terminology. I believe newbies are calling them "spammers" these days from all the crying I hear when I'm on like a 40+ streak in SCV. Of course if you call someone a spammer, it's probably because you lost, so you might not want to say that. Saying scrub instead may be more socially acceptable, but only when it is applied to the correct situation and here it is not.
Hint: There is something you're missing.
Yea, sorry that's not how competition works. That's how corruption works. Politics have no place in competition. The only ones who disagree with that assessment are the weak willed, spineless cowards who can't put fourth the work required in competing and have to resort to those methods.
And why would I give Manny an olive branch when he has not stopped fucking the community? Are you really of the mind that his deceit ended 6 years ago? I'm not the one chasing him off, it's the ENTIRE COMMUNITY. Like I said, the wound doesn't heal until you stop twisting the knife. Manny is still twisting the knife, so the community says Fuck Manny and he's never welcome here for long. The only friends he has managed to make are outside of the community because they are either completely ignorant non-competitive players, or happen to be benefiting from Manny's connections in some manner.
Competition without integrity is not competition. I came here to compete and anyone who didn't is in the wrong place. They can either go to DOAW or go suffocate in the endless void of broken dreams with the rest of the Dallas clique.
You're absolutely right about that part, if you view it as "derp, the world is a fucked up place whatcha gonna do" mentality. Thing is though, I don't think any of us really care to watch the community get hamstrung for another seven years.
All humans sin, regardless of religion.
That said, I'm not going to pry into someones personal religion and criticize them on it because that is a seriously low blow. I will say that while Swoozie acts like a really nice guy (As Cyber used to put it, Buddah) the fact that he associates with Master the way he does and goes along with him on all of these trips does indeed rub me the wrong way and in that, I see very little distinction between them.
x Sypher x
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Lol
Relius Starkiller
Active Member
I play (97) Terry, Iori and Takuma mainly. If you see Lucky on my team I'm fucking around.
Yes, negate the last part when I said if he had spoke up 4 years prior to the situation blowing up. The fact that he wanted respect and wasn't getting it is a very simple situation to resolve - demand it. When he wasn't getting his props for the first time they revamped the front page he should have said something, after the Japan trip he should have said something, when that idiot Xino got the ability to post on TKP's front page he should have said something.
And not take that passive aggressive "Man, I wish you would have included me." No, demand what you think is yours and if you don't get it THEN show them your ass. It seems to me that Glock has been stewing on this shit for years when all he ever had to do was speak what he felt.
If you think I'm going to be taken advantage of your bald ass must be high. Me and master are not fucking but he isn't my enemy either.
Heres where you've got the game fucked up - its not all about countering. Its about grappling, timing, spacing and moment to moment decision making. A match with Rikuto goes something like this - I stun him, he counters, I grab.
I stand in his face, wait for him to counter, he does, I grab. I stun him, he doesn't counter, I time a slower catch grab. That formula works all the time and hes admitted as such.
Ya know who else that strategy beats? People that don't know what their doing - I can't implement that strategy all the time, every time against other high level players but Rikuto is the exception. But I can do it against any idiot B+ who doesn't want me to explain to them how to slow escape.
Swoozie puts it out there that hes a Christian, I'm just pointing out how that lifestyle and the one hes living don't quite match up.
Oh, I'm sorry that I didn't read the "SRK Labeling System" index but then again, no I'm not. I don't care what their definition is, mine is someone who thinks they are better than they are. You feel that you are better than you actually are. You're like that guy at the poker table who goes all in every once in a while - you might win a few pots that way but the book is out on you and you'll never win the bracelet.
Same in DOA, you mash X in hopes of winning and when it doesn't you bitch about online, and izuna drops and Bayman would have beat you if this were 3.1.
Me? Maybe you're the one here with the mental barrier because the way I see it the only way you could ever win was by trying to devolve the game into something it wasn't and more often than not it backfired on you. You've constructed this little fantasy world where you only had trouble with (quote) the big 4 but I know so many people who have the exact same strategy to beat you.
You're living in a dream world Neo.
Answer: A Vagina, now give me 3 terrible things Master has done to this community outside of the afore mentioned.
Politics exist in almost every facet of social life and, most importantly, every sport. It doesn't matter if it has no place, its there, are you going to run away from it? Because when you do that it wins.
You could play the game, you could give it a shot.
*Applause* Thats great man, lets keep the community splintered. Lets rely on Shoryuken to prop up DOA5.
Rikuto, my god. I didn't get it before but now I do. Fuck the people! Fuck everyone who doesn't agree with you! My. . . .my god, Rikuto, thats genius! That way you can live in your social bubble, you can keep your mental barriers erected and, to you, life will be as you see it.
Write a book on how to shove your head into the sand, you're great at it.
I really believe that Relius either has some sort of mental issue or just terrible reading comprehension. Maybe a little from column A and a little from column B?
Relius Starkiller
Active Member
Why is it that every time someone throws a little bit of grief your way you end up questioning their intelligence?
Because I don't see where I misread anything - spamming counters is a way to win but it isn't the best way or the only way. Rikuto's game is counter heavy and he pays for it more often than not. He can make as many posts about whats wrong with DOA and how it should never have been taken seriously but all to often I see the guy questioning others accomplishments and measuring them against what he was able to do in a game that, from what I gather, he felt took little skill to be successful at - Which is easy to say when your game is predicated on countering all day (Like Rikuto) and your successes come via beating other tournament goers who have an expectation of how a high level player should play (Wrong, but they do). . .but once they know what you're about you lose (Like Rikuto).
Now show me were I misunderstood something.
Hmm. . .how about I take the Rikuto position and question what games YOU'RE tournament competent at. Like that shit has much baring on the conversation anyway but it seems like people in this thread are ok with that.
So, Grap3.
What games are you tournament level at?