"This ends now. By my hand!" Kasumi's DOA5LR Discussion Thread

[Chapstick]

I'd be happy if 66K had a better hitbox

 

[RenderingStar]

I mean I think it's a great Whiff punish but if she extended it a little more than it would be an excellent move to punish with and it could lead into more mix up

 

[Chapstick]

I mean as a mid Alpha shouldn't be able to duck it by just standing in place lol

 

[RenderingStar]

I forgot all about that xD

 

[Chapstick]

You know what, why doesn't Kasumi's BT 4K have the SDS and bound Ayane's identical kick BT 6K has?

Not just that but why is Kasumi's -13 on block while Ayane's is +0? Kasumi's has one more active frame and does 7 more dmg but I don't think that's good enough reason for it to suck so much in comparison.

 

[RenderingStar]

Does that kick wall splat I don't really utilize it as much as I can but I don't think it's worth it because of what you just said

 

[RenderingStar]

But that would be wonderful if 4k would put them in a SDS and the extra bound damage would be nice but I think it would even it out if they made it the bound and SDS but the kept it -13 on block

 

[J.D.E.]

My favorite setups so far in 5U:
Stun, 4P 4H+K 3P 236P
Stun. PP6K, 4PK
Stun, 3PP, 6P6K
Stun, H+K, 9K
Stun, PPK, 9K
Stun, 3PP, 8K
Stun, P, 4H+K 4PK

There's a little bit more, but my point is that I wanted to make more use of 3H+K & 66KK in Last Round some how some way, hoping that she gets some sort of a high stun that will be fairly deep enough to extend her offensive mixups. It would also be good if 9PK hits as a mid instead of high with the trade off that it has. The risk of using it is huge.

 

[RenderingStar]

I love including 6k in a mix up such a dangerous move

 

[RenderingStar]

And I also use 6h+k>66k ppk(p+k)

 

[Chapstick]

Can someone find a way to add 2 points of damage to this? I really want to hit 300 on NH

 

[RenderingStar]

I'll look and try to find one but try changing the pp to something else and try and get it higher than 86

 

[Chapstick]

The PP 3PP after the initial stun and then after the barrier gets it to exactly 28/28.

 

[RenderingStar]

Ah I see but other moves can lead up to 28 mad do more damage but that combo is great

 

[Chapstick]

I think with H+K's unholdable property removed they should give it to 33K.

 

[J.D.E.]

Wait, what? Why?

 

[RenderingStar]

I'm also confused

 

[J.D.E.]

I'm not saying that it's dumb or anything like that. We're just curious to hear why do you feel that 33K should be unholdable. H+K's unholdable nerf was in the works because she can get a launch from it with little trouble opposed to the rest of the characters. That's my guess. Nothing is 100% consistent if you go to the lab & then repeat the launchers from in (4PK, 9K, 6P6K). Your reactions after the stun have to be crisp, on point to where they can't avoid it hence being granted. I can see why they would change it, but at the same time, I didn't think it was called for since you could duck it & if you did hold it, you could strike punish it after the sidestep & some of the other uncalled for changes that she got.

33K is already putting her at safe range in open space on block even though it's -16 (punishable near the walls & tight areas) . It works the same as her 6PK/PP6PK & Momiji's 7K. Making it unholdable would make it borderline crazy (to everybody else). It crushes wake up kicks & on top of that, it launches. So I think that's a fair exchange there.

Edit: Unless you meant as an unholdable tech after a knockdown.

 

[Chapstick]

Nvm lol. Throwing an idea out there

I don't think it absolutely needs it, it's an odd looking move that seems like it would be something an opponent would do a hold SS to. I know it's a good move that's safe with pushback and can also crush mid WU's but H+K was a good move and didn't need the property removed.

How many unholdable moves does she have? I can only think of 7K of the top of my head

 

[J.D.E.]

H+K is still a good move because it's still granting her a launcher.

I only know of 2. That one & then 66K (but it's hard to time). I would only consider using them near walls.