Tournament system of choice for DOA5?

[DrDogg]

Dogg i'd like to know which majors outside of cali use 360 exclusively? as far as I know the majority of tournaments go ps3. ect, nec, wb, sj, ceo, sb, fr, tit, toronto cup are the big majors that are primary ps3.

Keep in mind, I'm west coast. A vast majority of my tournament experience is comprised of west coast majors. I can't think of any west coast tournaments, other than Evo, that use PS3 over Xbox. SCR, NCR, WNF, WCW, DEV, etc. all use 360.

Either way, this conversation is WAY too early. This is not something that can be decided before the game is released.

 

[UncleKitchener]

Well, you guys should be ready to migrate to the PS3 when the pros are in favour of the ps3, especially with tourneys, unless you're a stick player like me, which in that case it wouldn't make a difference (I still don't quite see this making into something like Evo unless it turns out awfully good). Hopefully, this could get picked up in the UK with some small scene.

Hey, Legos are awesome.

Well, if you're going to a lego tourney, then give me a call because I'm a high level builder

 

[Matt Ponton]

Either way, this conversation is WAY too early. This is not something that can be decided before the game is released.

I honestly concur. I've told Hubbs before that this can't be decided until the game is playable and released to fully determine which system is the "better" system for the competitive crowd.

 

[Tenren]

South Cali Regional going on right now are being played on Xbox360- I think with in the next year a lot of the major will go to xbox.
also stick sucks on 4. I tried forever just not worth it. The muti button inputs just don't work very well unless you have a weird ass setup which you would have to go back to main menu to change between matches. Just wouldn't be worth the time in a tournament.

 

[DR2K]

Which ever runs better for the event in question. Players are just going to have to find a way to accommodate for both systems.

 

[ScattereDreams]

I don't feel comfortable playing DOA on stick and, on ps pad its not right. I'm more use to xbox pad when playing DOA then any fighter. (Well its the only fighter I play on pad.)

 

[DrDogg]

I don't feel comfortable playing DOA on stick and, on ps pad its not right. I'm more use to xbox pad when playing DOA then any fighter. (Well its the only fighter I play on pad.)

You're in the minority of competitive fighting game players, but when it comes to DOA, you may be in the majority.

I first started playing DOA on pad, but I was forced to switch to stick when DOA4 released because the 360 pad is horrid for fighting games. Now I can't play DOA on a pad, and I have absolutely no problems executing on a stick. I still play Tekken and MK on a pad, but only a Dual Shock. Every other fighting game I play on stick.

 

[Raansu]

You're in the minority of competitive fighting game players, but when it comes to DOA, you may be in the majority.

I first started playing DOA on pad, but I was forced to switch to stick when DOA4 released because the 360 pad is horrid for fighting games. Now I can't play DOA on a pad, and I have absolutely no problems executing on a stick. I still play Tekken and MK on a pad, but only a Dual Shock. Every other fighting game I play on stick.

I hardly ever see anyone bother using a stick with DoA. It's just too much of a nightmare with that buffering system.

 

[DrDogg]

I hardly ever see anyone bother using a stick with DoA. It's just too much of a nightmare with that buffering system.

I honestly don't know what you're talking about. When I was forced to switch to stick, I had no problems with the buffering system. Everything I can do on pad in DOA, I can do on stick. I even started on the old school DOA Hori Stick, which was terrible compared to what we have today.

Also, up until now it's been only DOA fans playing DOA. Since the arcade release was so limited, most of those DOA players are pad warriors. There's nothing wrong with that, but if you want to get people from other fighting game communities into DOA, they're probably going to be using stick. The few who will want to use pad, will probably want to use a Dual Shock.

 

[MeanMrMustard]

There's nothing wrong with DOA on stick. Just like any other fighter, it's all about what you're used to. My only issue is how sticks (at least the DOA Hori I was using at the time) read your inputs: four switches, one each on top, bottom, left, and right. This made 33 motions sometimes come out as 236 motions because in DOA you only need to press 26 to have 236 motions come out. Therefore, when you go to press 33, sometimes you would hit 2 before you hit 2 and 6, registering the 3 direction causing 236 moves come out.

 

[target1995]

i dont know much about pros and cons for xbox or ps3, but i think that it should stay on xbox since that has been where the fan base was for the past games, but ill be getting it for both

 

[Raansu]

I honestly don't know what you're talking about. When I was forced to switch to stick, I had no problems with the buffering system. Everything I can do on pad in DOA, I can do on stick. I even started on the old school DOA Hori Stick, which was terrible compared to what we have today.

Also, up until now it's been only DOA fans playing DOA. Since the arcade release was so limited, most of those DOA players are pad warriors. There's nothing wrong with that, but if you want to get people from other fighting game communities into DOA, they're probably going to be using stick. The few who will want to use pad, will probably want to use a Dual Shock.

I'm not saying using a stick is a bad thing. I prefer a stick over a pad in every other fighter. I'm just saying for many, doa feels weird on a stick and most doa players use pads. Even at D i D last year the only person I saw using a stick was VP, and that was with doa3.1. Everyone has their preference is all I'm saying, and DoA (at least 3 and 4) just seems to be more suited for a pad, and I'm guessing the same will be with doa5. Like always I'll attempt to use a stick when doa5 comes out, but whether I stick with it or not remains to be seen.

 

[Tenren]

yah ill be buying both. At our monthly we have here a lot of the ssf4 guys have asked me to teach them DOA. The monthly's we host are ps3 majority with me and just a few others bringing an xbox. Everyone now has dual modded sticks so they play doa with me on xbox. I think in the end it will come down to most people have ps3 in the FGC. With that being said Id rather play on xbox but could see it being a ps3 thing at small tournaments.

stick wise i play stick on eveything but doa4. I have found that the mad catz pad was ok but found it hard to hit double 1,1 or 3,3. I have since found the PDP versus pad and love it for DOA. It just like a stick but uses the 6button layout which works good for me n doa4
http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-360/accessories/xbox-360-versus-controller-pdp/90035

 

[UncleKitchener]

I bet a Kasumi sticks would sell like hot cakes these days (or a Christie one, I'm pretty sure Awesmic would make an additional hole).
"I guess that would make it a multi-purpose arcade stick, eh? Right? Eh, guys? Hello?"

 

[WINBACK]

Tournament standard is PS3 (if this changes in the future then disregard the rest of this post), even though you'll come across an Xbox every now and then. Civil War was an Evo-qualifier that was all Xbox 360, but that was because of the host who had like 30 CRT's and he had no choice if he wanted to get it done in a weekend. Soul Calibur 2 on PS2 and Marvel 3 on PS3 have been known to have slowdown issues, but even those still got played on Playstation consoles. There has to be a much bigger technical reason not to run a game on a particular system other than stage-specific slowdown or some minor graphical difference.

If you guys want DoA5 to mesh well with the other major fighters at events like Evo, then you may have to play on PS3. If that happens, don't use the "but we've played on Xbox since 2001" defense or else you'll just look like whiners from a community that's been cut-off for years. If you want your game to get big and be a part of all the other titles, then adapt or die. Don't be tight-asses about it when you know people have enough trouble as it is opening up to the DoA community because of how people feel about the game. Don't look at it as "giving in," look at it as "supporting" or "starting anew" for the sake of the game's longevity. And if you don't even go to offline tournaments then nobody cares what you think in this thread. The fuck up.

Lastly, don't mention shit like MLG or events like it (where fighting games go to die) to support your reasons. People hate those tournaments as far as fighting games are concerned, except the people getting payout.

 

[Rikuto]

Has anyone determined just why the FGC decided to go with the system that has the longest load times, most slowdown issues, shittiest online service for casuals and an inherent 2 frame delay on pretty much every game that is popular?

Not saying that I'm incapable of playing on a dual shock or anything. I'll play on whatever, just like I did with SCV. Just starting to theorize that some pockets of the FGC may be.... well.... stupid.

 

[Matt Ponton]

The major reason it went with the PS3 was due to controller support, lack of issue with assigned controllers such as the profile system, and at the start of the generation the Xbox 360 was having its Red Ring of Death issue.

Now, it's because Evo uses PS3, so everyone else uses PS3... except Japan.

 

[grap3fruitman]

~snip~

Who is this post in reference to? Most of the people here are level headed and own and play on multiple consoles.

I've only seen people cry about DOA being on PlayStation on sites like DOAW and GameFAQs. To which I always respond with my photo of several copies of DOA1 and 2 with the PS logo on them.

The major reason it went with the PS3 was due to controller support, lack of issue with assigned controllers such as the profile system, and at the start of the generation the Xbox 360 was having its Red Ring of Death issue.

Makes sense.

Now, it's because Evo uses PS3, so everyone else uses PS3... except Japan.

The irony is delicious.

 

[Matt Ponton]

To clarify, they use Xbox for Capcom fighters as they found the ps3 to jave a 1 frame delay on their games.

 

[Rikuto]

The major reason it went with the PS3 was due to controller support, lack of issue with assigned controllers such as the profile system, and at the start of the generation the Xbox 360 was having its Red Ring of Death issue.

Now, it's because Evo uses PS3, so everyone else uses PS3... except Japan.

Once in a blue moon, a 360 dies at a tournament. Every time I turn on my PS3 I have an immediate sense of regret.

I just don't see how this balances out.. What, people are too cheap/lazy/stupid to get a 20 dollar converter so they can use their controller of choice? People made a bad call in the past as to what system should be used, so now we gota keep making it every time we hold a tournament in the future?

/boggle.