NukNuks
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What system should the DOA IPL League be played on?
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. At least Namco can handle the PS3 better.
MasterHavik
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it's just one frame....that is all...I'm done...I really don't like these discussions. Also laggy TVs is a TO's fault and they need to fix their shit don't blame it on the system.
ayane18
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yeah people complaining about 1 frame need to get laid.
DrDogg
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Hypothetical: How do we know the PS3 lags by 1 frame? Perhaps the 360 runs too fast by 1 frame?
I haven't looked at any of the research, just figured I'd ask. With Capcom games it's easy to determine because there's an arcade counterpart to compare it to. Do we know how Team Ninja intended the game to be played? PS3 was the lead console, the 360 was the port so... just tossing that out there.
I haven't looked at any of the research, just figured I'd ask. With Capcom games it's easy to determine because there's an arcade counterpart to compare it to. Do we know how Team Ninja intended the game to be played? PS3 was the lead console, the 360 was the port so... just tossing that out there.
Jefffcore
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It's like playing online while you're offline. Who wants to go to a tournament where the game isn't running full speed?
Raansu
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Then don't post in here. Take your stupidity elsewhere.
DrDogg
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Online is variable lag. This is not. It's very different.
This compares it to DOA4. That still doesn't answer the question as to how Team Ninja intended the game to be played. Looking at this, it appears as though DOA5 360 has 1 frame of lag and PS3 has 2 frames of lag. Or... DOA5 runs 2 frames slower than DOA4 and 1 frame too fast on 360.
But that's comparing it to DOA4. Still doesn't tell us how DOA5 is meant to be played.
Not saying this analysis is incorrect, just wondering if we actually know the reality of the situation.
It's not "comparing it to DOA4". It's providing its analysis of frame delay, and also providing the analysis of frame delay for DOA4.
Either way, I don't see how its logical to say that the 360 is responding "faster than designed" as being a bad thing. I know you're trying to see the glass half full in such a situation so I understand where you're coming from. However, I don't think it's a valid argument to make that the game wasn't *meant* to be played with either delay. There are many things that the community has had to decide on without the input of what the designer actually meant to do.
We're both sitting on the fence with this question so I'm not trying to argue or anything of the such, just providing the facts as best given: The Xbox 360 version of Dead or Alive 5 responds to input one frame faster than the PlayStation 3 version.
DR2K
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I would imagine if the intended delay was to be 2 frames, then it would be emulated on the 360 version.
I don't see the purpose in any sort of delay in a fighting game.
NightAntilli
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How the game is 'meant to be played' is irrelevant. 6 frames of input lag is the same as playing a game at 30fps instead of 60fps in terms of responsiveness. There is no reason whatsoever to make a game less responsive, other than giving the engine and hardware more time to calculate things. There is no option here other than 'lower is better'. Besides, even if 7 frame input lag really was the way the game was meant to be played, why didn't they just add the extra frame on the X360? Keeping input lag down is one of the most difficult things in game programming, so if the game was meant to be played that way, it would actually be easy to implement it on the X360. The only reason the PS3 has one more frame is because its hardware is inefficient, and that's all there is to it.
RoboJoe
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Does it even matter? The ideal is zero frames of delay from button press to whatever is supposed to happen on screen. Even if TN intended the extra frame, that's still no reason to choose the console that's further from the desired zero frames of delay.
Edit: ninja'd by a guy who should be sleeping right now.
dawnbringer
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I wonder why in Jeffcore's video input lag is not consistent on both consoles: 5-6 on 360 and 6-7 on PS3.
NightAntilli
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Probably not. I'm quite confident that it has to do with the split memory in the PS3, in which the data in it has to be synced with the CPU before being sent to the GPU, while having two memory pools running at different speeds, requiring an additional frame. If that's the case, patching it is pretty much impossible. I'm not sure what the additional frame (compared to DOA4) on the X360 is though. Ideally I'd love to have the DOA4 input lag. I immediately noticed a difference when I picked up DOA5.
