synce
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If you're tired of seeing her get nerfed and have some ideas, Shimbori is listening:
https://twitter.com/shimbori_x/status/451033664411811840
#BuffMila
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If you're tired of seeing her get nerfed and have some ideas, Shimbori is listening:
https://twitter.com/shimbori_x/status/451033664411811840
Hurricane Rev
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She doesn't need to be buff. It's all about the player......
SilverForte
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I say just revert her nerfs, she was fine before.
Where's Something Unique? He could write something up and we could all send it to them.
Where's Something Unique? He could write something up and we could all send it to them.
Hurricane Rev
Active Member
No offence but there's no point to this thread. We've already got the Mila 1.05 ver thread. So It could have been posted in there really.
And before I forget, Mila DOESN'T need to be buff.
And before I forget, Mila DOESN'T need to be buff.
The tier ranking discussion is still a work in progress and far from complete. Thing is, tournaments are being dominated by literally the same few characters time and time again. Sarah isn't winning a lot, but aside from perhaps Gen Fu, she is easily the strongest character in the game. Top-level Tournament players just aren't using Mila at these events. Something-Unique isn't making it to offline tournaments, or I'm fairly certain you'd be seeing Mila doing well.
It really just depends on what you consider "above average." If that term is synonymous with top-tier than no, Mila is not "above average." If "above average" means higher than mid-tier, than yes, she is above average.
Fair enough.
I'd love to participate in that tier discussion but I don't have the experience to really make any of those calls. I'm only an online warrior as being in the sticks in Idaho makes it impossible to do anything offline. Only thing I will say about it is I do find it weird that her only favorable match-up on that ranking is Eliot. It feels like she ought to have at least a couple more than that.
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Raze
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Nothing wrong with a buff Mila thread, especially after Sorwah was on VFDC all night saying ridiculous things about Mila, since another VF player (who also plays Sarah offline in FS like me) said he really loves DOA Mila after using her.
Rachel has 2 mid kicks that offer +20 or more on NH, Momiji has a 16f mid K that gives +34 on NH and a 26f mid K that gives +23 on NH. Ayane has a good circular mid kick that gives more than +20 on NH, Kasumi has a 22f Mid K that gives +26 on NH, a 16f mid kick that give +19 on NH, and a 18f Mid K that gives +34 on NH. Hitomi has a 18f mid tracking K that gives +20 on NH and a 17f mid that is +35 on NH. Marie Rose has a 16f Mid K that gives +28 on NH and LeiFang has a 13f Mid Kick that is +29 on NH (I am stopping there it's too disgusting).
I don't understand why Mila has NONE, not even 1 in the 20F class and under. She had one in no charge 7K, but hers ofc was removed and nerfed down way to hard. So now Mila has no 20f - 26f class mid kick that gives a +20 or greater stun now, while other chars have 13f mid kicks that do. Why is she denied a similar move? That isn't balance... It's a big hole from the 7K nerf and OFFLINE VF players aren't in love with 35frame moves, sorry.. It is especially shameful when there are many characters with 13f to 26f mid k's that offer +20 to +34 on NH.
Rachel has 2 mid kicks that offer +20 or more on NH, Momiji has a 16f mid K that gives +34 on NH and a 26f mid K that gives +23 on NH. Ayane has a good circular mid kick that gives more than +20 on NH, Kasumi has a 22f Mid K that gives +26 on NH, a 16f mid kick that give +19 on NH, and a 18f Mid K that gives +34 on NH. Hitomi has a 18f mid tracking K that gives +20 on NH and a 17f mid that is +35 on NH. Marie Rose has a 16f Mid K that gives +28 on NH and LeiFang has a 13f Mid Kick that is +29 on NH (I am stopping there it's too disgusting).
I don't understand why Mila has NONE, not even 1 in the 20F class and under. She had one in no charge 7K, but hers ofc was removed and nerfed down way to hard. So now Mila has no 20f - 26f class mid kick that gives a +20 or greater stun now, while other chars have 13f mid kicks that do. Why is she denied a similar move? That isn't balance... It's a big hole from the 7K nerf and OFFLINE VF players aren't in love with 35frame moves, sorry.. It is especially shameful when there are many characters with 13f to 26f mid k's that offer +20 to +34 on NH.
Jefffcore
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Mila doesn't need to be buffed. She's still hella good, she's just not brain-dead.
Wanting something that stuns to whiff punish with makes sense, but it still isn't detrimental. Stuns aren't the end all be all; find something else. Why does everyone need to play the same? Why does Mila need to be perfect?
She's has an offensive hold, amazing 6T for punishment, can still play the ground game despite the change, amazing damage to speed (great regardless), etc, etc.
Hitomi has that kick, but it's about all she's got
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Wanting something that stuns to whiff punish with makes sense, but it still isn't detrimental. Stuns aren't the end all be all; find something else. Why does everyone need to play the same? Why does Mila need to be perfect?
She's has an offensive hold, amazing 6T for punishment, can still play the ground game despite the change, amazing damage to speed (great regardless), etc, etc.
Hitomi has that kick, but it's about all she's got
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Mila has a 12 frame mid for some reason. She can cancel/fake several strikes, get a braindead two-guess CB with that SDS charge kick, has nice lows that open you up on NH and a nasty reset for her standard punish throw, standing and crouching. I wonder why Ryu doesn't have similar moves?
Oh yeah. Because the whole idea of having different characters is that they have different tools. I don't get a 12 frame mid, you don't get some of the things I get in return.
I should also add that Leifang's 9K provides a lift stun on NH like many launchers do (ie: Rig's 8K, which is 12 frames). The times you're landing that on NH rather than getting it's CH properties are limited, and the launch on CH really doesn't give her much. In fact, even on lightweights, the only thing you can follow it up with is the rest of the 9KKK string (42 damage on CH). The stun from 9K on NH is also only +19 if the opponent stagger escapes. Not to mention that, surprise, it's unsafe. What you call "disgusting" is really not all that useful (it's primary use is as a refloat in juggles, in case you're unfamiliar with the character).
So instead of that, you get a chargeable mid kick that gives you a guaranteed CB from a nasty SDS and a guard break should the opponent try to block it (yes, I'm familiar with the frames needed to land this move). This gives you a CB in only three hits, the third of which is guaranteed. That's essentially a two-guess CB (half the guesses of most CB set-ups).
You get 75 damage off of a NH 23 mid kick with insane crush abilities that is only -8 on block (note the Kasumi kick you complained about was near that at 22 frames, but she doesn't get 75 damage guaranteed off of a mid kick on NH).
You also get a mid K guard break that's only 18 frames.
So, I assume whatever this thing was with @Mr. Wah is what he was referring to with that post on FB? I can't say anything regarding that since I didn't see what either party/parties said there, but I can say that here you're asking for something you don't need, and complaining about things that really aren't a problem. Your obsession with NH advantage is odd, because Mila doesn't have problems opening people up or scoring CHs.
Oh yeah. Because the whole idea of having different characters is that they have different tools. I don't get a 12 frame mid, you don't get some of the things I get in return.
I should also add that Leifang's 9K provides a lift stun on NH like many launchers do (ie: Rig's 8K, which is 12 frames). The times you're landing that on NH rather than getting it's CH properties are limited, and the launch on CH really doesn't give her much. In fact, even on lightweights, the only thing you can follow it up with is the rest of the 9KKK string (42 damage on CH). The stun from 9K on NH is also only +19 if the opponent stagger escapes. Not to mention that, surprise, it's unsafe. What you call "disgusting" is really not all that useful (it's primary use is as a refloat in juggles, in case you're unfamiliar with the character).
So instead of that, you get a chargeable mid kick that gives you a guaranteed CB from a nasty SDS and a guard break should the opponent try to block it (yes, I'm familiar with the frames needed to land this move). This gives you a CB in only three hits, the third of which is guaranteed. That's essentially a two-guess CB (half the guesses of most CB set-ups).
You get 75 damage off of a NH 23 mid kick with insane crush abilities that is only -8 on block (note the Kasumi kick you complained about was near that at 22 frames, but she doesn't get 75 damage guaranteed off of a mid kick on NH).
You also get a mid K guard break that's only 18 frames.
So, I assume whatever this thing was with @Mr. Wah is what he was referring to with that post on FB? I can't say anything regarding that since I didn't see what either party/parties said there, but I can say that here you're asking for something you don't need, and complaining about things that really aren't a problem. Your obsession with NH advantage is odd, because Mila doesn't have problems opening people up or scoring CHs.
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Let's make a deal. Switch Leifang's mid kicks with Mila's low punches.
But then he'll complain about lows. Remember, he feels like Mila is entitled to have every tool in the game.
Just so you know the Stun -> 7K charged to CB only works if you attempt to hold it. You can avoid it completely by doing nothing if you see it coming and you are in stun.
Getting 7K (uncharged) back to it's old status is the biggest thing I want out of these nerfs. No more kick mixups allowed for Mila unless you want to play a risky reset game.
Getting 7K (uncharged) back to it's old status is the biggest thing I want out of these nerfs. No more kick mixups allowed for Mila unless you want to play a risky reset game.
synce
Well-Known Member
Yes I feel entitled because my character has been nerfed non-stop for 2 years. Excuse me.
My list:
- Revert 1P/TD 2P stun nerf
- Revert either 7K or 4H+K stun nerf
- Buff 426T to 70 damage
- Make Mila middleweight
- Give some feints advantage on block (like 4K used to be)
I'd be happy with any 3 of those buffs.
My list:
- Revert 1P/TD 2P stun nerf
- Revert either 7K or 4H+K stun nerf
- Buff 426T to 70 damage
- Make Mila middleweight
- Give some feints advantage on block (like 4K used to be)
I'd be happy with any 3 of those buffs.
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Last I recalled you dropped her in Vanilla 1.03 because it made her unplayable.
1P yes.
The 41236H+P feels fine now, 70 damage is approaching official grappler territory.
Middleweight is like how Helena is Cruiser, makes her even better because you have to modify juggles. Just not good in the eyes of other players because of how good she already is.
I really want her Mount Breaks from vanilla or at least advantage from them.
1P yes.
The 41236H+P feels fine now, 70 damage is approaching official grappler territory.
Middleweight is like how Helena is Cruiser, makes her even better because you have to modify juggles. Just not good in the eyes of other players because of how good she already is.
I really want her Mount Breaks from vanilla or at least advantage from them.
Beautiful-Nature
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- Revert 4H+K stun nerf