Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate: Helena

[Omegan Eckhart]

Good find.

Haha, a massive damage sacrifice for +1? Hell yeah!

 

[Akumasama]

Not sure if there anybody posted that, i found that both pseudo FTs for a few.

214PP 66K +18
BT4PK BKO2K +13

What is a "pseudo FT"? A Pseudo Forced Tech? But still, what does the "pseudo" stand for?


Also, out of curiosity, anybody knows "LipsLikeSugar" (Gamertag on X360, not exactely that but has that in the middle)?
She claims to be the best Helena player on Xbox Live.
And she's pretty good on offense. Very good attack patterns, good variations, high unpredictability, good stun game.
Not as good in defense, but still overall a nice player.
Bit arrogant maybe, but hey she's American... find me an american competitive player who's not arrogant lol

 

[Project Bokuho]

CH BKO 66P > 214PP true pseudo FT giving +1 lulz

I got +17 on that instead (without the recover option on). It sucks that the opponent can tech roll before the second P hits

 

[Omegan Eckhart]

I got +17 on that instead (without the recover option on). It sucks that the opponent can tech roll before the second P hits

I wonder if TN un-fucked the ground game a bit for the Arcade Version? Wish someone would post some info on any system changes.

 

[Pictured Mind]

I wonder if TN un-fucked the ground game a bit for the Arcade Version? Wish someone would post some info on any system changes.

I hope. Half of Helena's moves don't hit opponents on the ground even tho they should. Helena used to BE the ground game.

 

[ninjaguy446]

I'm back again for more advice! Does anyone know how to deal with that hoe Pai? It seems like she's faster than me and her mixups are better. What should I be holding? Is BKO a good idea? Sidestep? How do I stop her onslaught of attacks?​

 

[Project Bokuho]

... that hoe Pai?

Um, excuse me?

 

[ninjaguy446]

Um, excuse me?

Im sure she's a nice person and all but she's difficult to fight lol.

 

[Dark_Ky]

whats the input for that special bt backdash? right at the beginning:

 

[ninjaguy446]

whats the input for that special bt backdash? right at the beginning:

Jesus lol. I have no idea but that's awesome.

 

[Project Bokuho]

whats the input for that special bt backdash? right at the beginning:

I too know how to do this (considering that I play Pai). All you have to do is input 4 then 1 quickly (and repetitively) while back turned. If you do it wrong, you'll end up facing the opponent.

 

[Akumasama]

I wonder if these are things that the programmers put in the game on purpose, with the clear thought of giving some additional tool meant to be used, or if they are just a bug that they didn't notice but then decided to leave it in game because they considered it harmless/funny (or they couldn't be bothered to patch it)

It looks really ugly, aesthetically, and I have to say in general DoA5 is a (very very small) step backwards in that sense. Too many long and ugly juggles compared to previous episodes. Altough the situation, luckily, is nowhere near as bad as other 3D titles.

 

[Pictured Mind]

whats the input for that special bt backdash? right at the beginning:

You guys didn't know this? LOL that's basically the first thing I ever tried with Helena.

First you do 2P+K to get into BKO stance, then press 7 to go to BT and then just mash 414141414141414141414141.
It's actually pretty easy and fun to use against friends.

 

[Project Bokuho]

First you do 2P+K to get into BKO stance, then press 7 to go to BT and then just mash 414141414141414141414141.
It's actually pretty easy and fun to use against friends.

Yup. Exactly what I said in my last comment

 

[Pictured Mind]

Yup. Exactly what I said in my last comment

But I explained how to get in BT from BKO.

 

[ninjaguy446]

But I explained how to get in BT from BKO.

But that's in the movelist lol. Either way though, I can now swag away from the scene after handslapping my way to victory.

 

[Pictured Mind]

But that's in the movelist lol. Either way though, I can now swag away from the scene after handslapping my way to victory.

Eh it's just more clear if you know everything, haha.

 

[Omegan Eckhart]

Could you always low throw Helena for free after blocking her handslaps if she tried to standing block afterwards? Seems like something I'd remember...

Edit: Who is Quentin Chesnay? I keep getting people sending me messages reading, "Hello Mr Chesnay how are you?, and messages just saying, "Quentin". What the fuck is this bullshit about?

 

[Pictured Mind]

Anybody have some good pressure tips for me? Basically good ways to keep pressure and rush the opponent down? Any info is welcome.

 

[ninjaguy446]

Anybody have some good pressure tips for me? Basically good ways to keep pressure and rush the opponent down? Any info is welcome.

Well, Helena thrives by playing the stun game, so that's basically where you always want to be since her mixups are ridiculous. Also, make sure that you utilize all three of her stances (FT, BT, and BKO). She has great stun extenders and launchers from each. Make sure that you utilize her throws. BT T guarantees 3PP and from there you can go into BT with 3PP4 and loop the throw, hit the with BT 4P if they duck, BT 66K, or you can continue the stun FT. 214T guarantees BKO 6PP and you can continue the stun or do another 214T or go into BKO T. You can pretty much do a lot of creative stuff with Helena. To start stuns try 33P, 33P4P BKO 6P4P, K series, PKK, BT 4P/P, BT 66K,2H+K, etc. To extend stuns you can use all of the above and BT 4P+K, 9P4, 6P4, 44P, BKO 6PP, 8P, BKO P, P, etc. Also, doing 3PP4, 6P4, 8PP4, or 44P will reset the stun and you can restun them from BT. You can do BT 66K, BT 2H+K, BT 4PP, etc. Hope this helps.