DOA5U Ok! I'm Ready anytime!! Mila DOA5U Matchups & Strategy discussion thread
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Jefffcore
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1p+k?
I haven't played any good Ayane's since I started playing again, so I'm going to ask: What's her damage like, and how well does she utilize the ground?
I'm pretty confident Mila plays the ground better, and has a higher average damage. Otherwise they can deal with each other pretty evenly standing. I can't see Ayane's having any advantage...
In vanilla I would have said Mila had the advantage, but her whiff punishment took a poop.
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Ok so i was watching some japanese matches for DOA5UA and i saw a Mila do an interesting setup near the wall. He/she would wall splat you once and get a combo going and bounce you back to the wall. Afterwards, they would do 
and then (throw). If the opponent tech's, she's +. If they don't tech, she'll get the ground grab for guaranteed damage. After further testing, i made throw a high jab after he techs and i manage to beat his 10i jab with Mila's , BUT.. when i made throw out a high jab she managed to beat her out. If im beating out Rig's 10i jab with a 12 frame mid, how come i can't trade blows with Kasumi's? If you do the math, i should be +3 if im beating out Rig's high jab, so i should be able to trade with Kasumi's jab, but this isn't the case. And then there's instances where i DO beat her 9i high jab. Its so weird
and then (throw). If the opponent tech's, she's +. If they don't tech, she'll get the ground grab for guaranteed damage. After further testing, i made throw a high jab after he techs and i manage to beat his 10i jab with Mila's , BUT.. when i made throw out a high jab she managed to beat her out. If im beating out Rig's 10i jab with a 12 frame mid, how come i can't trade blows with Kasumi's? If you do the math, i should be +3 if im beating out Rig's high jab, so i should be able to trade with Kasumi's jab, but this isn't the case. And then there's instances where i DO beat her 9i high jab. Its so weird
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It might be a range/hitbox issue. I remember I had problems like that when I tested stuff like that.
I tried it for atleast 15-30 mins. It worked for me but i don't see how it isn't working for you.
Jefffcore
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I've tried the ground throw thing. I don't really know if everyone thinks they're getting it due to the timing of it, or if I'm missing something. As far as I know, If you get the ground throw animation you end up at negative when they tech. To get positive you have to get the regular 2t, but that whiffs.
Is the k just there for timing, or is it hitting? I can't see how it would matter, but...
Is the k just there for timing, or is it hitting? I can't see how it would matter, but...
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its kinda like an option select. If you do 2K and then 2T you're either gonna get the throw for guaranteed damage or frame advantage when they tech. It won't say your + when they tech but your basically +. Do 2K RIGHT after you wall splat them a second time and do 2T afterwards.
Jefffcore
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Yeah. Doesn't work...
None of those things shoud effect the outcome. The 2k doesn't really seem to work for timing, so I still don't understand. You're trying to os with a ground throw, but if your timing is right you get the ground throw animation, and it's slow. No advantage. If I do 2k, 2t right after I only get advantage if they don't tech, it's too soon to even get a ground throw; if they do tech I'm getting hit.
Do you have the CPU on random or are you switching back and forth?
I kinda think everyone's mistaking that it works because of the timing. I thought it work at first, then realized my timing was wrong.
Post the match video?
None of those things shoud effect the outcome. The 2k doesn't really seem to work for timing, so I still don't understand. You're trying to os with a ground throw, but if your timing is right you get the ground throw animation, and it's slow. No advantage. If I do 2k, 2t right after I only get advantage if they don't tech, it's too soon to even get a ground throw; if they do tech I'm getting hit.
Do you have the CPU on random or are you switching back and forth?
I kinda think everyone's mistaking that it works because of the timing. I thought it work at first, then realized my timing was wrong.
Post the match video?
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I had the CPU set to do a high punch after they tech, i was able to do
afterwards and managed to get a counter hit. Here's the video: At around the 4:35 mark is when they did the setup.
Jefffcore
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They did it right at the beginning, but they aren't getting a ground throw animation. If the person had laid there the throw would have whiffed.
The one where they got the throw, they did it a split second later. If the person had etched they wouldn't have had advantage.
It's all a timing thing, I promise.
The one where they got the throw, they did it a split second later. If the person had etched they wouldn't have had advantage.
It's all a timing thing, I promise.
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When they didn't tech... i got the ground throw. The CPU couldn't tech it.after laying on the ground.. and they get up FASTER than we do.
No. ill set it to no recovery... they get grabbed. I set it to Recovery, Im + every-time.
Ok i tested the setup again with random recovery and as i thought, i got the same results
. It also depends on the way you finish the combo/wall splat. Did you do or to end the combo? because both of those options work.
Alright i will if i get on today. But it'll be hard to tell if it works in the lag lol. ill just show you what im doing.