The Art Style and Graphics Discussion

[Jadeinchains]

The graphics look good on the new crash game though I'll admit I'm not shook by them. Also who puts their desk full of books next to a waterfall? stupid much? Lol at the blurry image of him jumping!

Neogaf isn't what it once was anymore. They now seem to admit anybody... It became a second GameFaqs. :/
Seriously, Virtua Fighter 5 one of the best looking fighting games? Street Fighter V a beauty on all platforms? XD

At first I was fighting with myself to say something or not...but, nah, it's not worth arguing with crazy. XD

Lol really have they gotten rid of their thing where I think you said you needed to be allowed to join after sending in an application or something? How is that forum?

Aye you got hood Tyaren!!!


"...that look moe consistent in style than KI"

Also tekken does surpass DOA in terms hair detail, most textures from new or revamped outfits, shaders and lighting, and of course the detail in the male body, as well as bare feet, hands, and clipping.

 

[Force_of_Nature]

Aww...I was agreeing with your post so much...until KI. It is imo a really unattractive game. The art style is just so...

Even these Ultra HD PC screenshots can't help it much.

Apart from Injustice 2, which is consistently beautiful, from characters, over stages to visually impressive stage transitions and super moves, there are games like Guilty Gear Xrd...

...and imo even the a little dated MKX:

...that look moe consistent in style than KI.

KI looks pretty good overall especially the stage designs. The character design visuals can be a bit spotty, but in general KI looks gorgeous during gameplay. MKX & Injustice look ugly in comparison, though I was never into the overly "nitty-gritty" style with no charm. GG Xrd looks good by anime fighter standards (especially during cutscenes) but overall I don't think it looks better than KI's visuals which are pretty stunning IMO (bar some character designs).

 

[Tyaren]

Also tekken does surpass DOA in terms of stages, hair detail, most textures from new or revamped outfits, shaders and lighting, and of course the detail in the male body, as well as bare feet, hands, and clipping.

Surpassing DOA in clipping is imo not something to be proud of... >__>

 

[KasumiLover]

Surpassing DOA in clipping is imo not something to be proud of... >__>

Oh wait I meant the other way around! There's hardly any clipping is what I meant and if there is it's because of customization you did

 

[Force_of_Nature]

Aye you got hood Tyaren!!!


"...that look moe consistent in style than KI"

Also tekken does surpass DOA in terms of stages, hair detail, most textures from new or revamped outfits, shaders and lighting, and of course the detail in the male body, as well as bare feet, hands, and clipping.

A lot of that is offset by how ugly Tekken 7's resolution is. There's this ugly grainy feel to the visuals in Tekken 7 compared to DOA5LR which hurts its visuals to me. Character models are uglier too.

 

[Tyaren]

...and if there is it's because of customization you did

I didn't do anything!

 

[KasumiLover]

A lot of that is offset by how ugly Tekken 7's resolution is. There's this ugly grainy feel to the visuals in Tekken 7 compared to DOA5LR which hurts its visuals to me. Character models are uglier too.

Oh that's the film grain and the resolution, on pc it can be removed and resolution is higher too. As far as character models the male bodies are better than DOA and the hair detail is better too, and the feet and hands actually look like feet and hands and not bear feet or hands with poorly rendered nails. The girls aren't as up to par either regarding the bodies but that does make sense since that's the not much the focus the devs were going for, but the female bodies are imo at least decent and the shaders on their bodies and skin from the lighting are better than DOA

The sweat mechanic is also as good as DOA too but the way it occurs is from taking damage which I think is stupid. Tekken needs to patch Lili's hair physics and return it to beta Tekken 7 or TTT2's physics since they use them for other characters and they need to change the sweat mechanic so that you sweat from the amount of attacks you do

I didn't do anything!

Oh I meant in general, like if you equip the bomber jacket on lili, yes it looks sexier but her default long lovely loose fetish appeasing hair clips through it, bar her her sidelocks, her ugly princess curls also clip into them and especially since she has long curled sidelocks. You would have to just use the generic pinned up or short hair and recolor it to her natural hair color to avoid it until they add her other styles which are shorter

 

[Jadeinchains]

yes it looks sexier but her default long lovely loose fetish

Loose hair...fetish?

Umm... I don't think that is...never mind.

As far as character models the male bodies are better than DOA and the hair detail is better too, and the feet and hands actually look like feet and hands and not bear feet or hands with poorly rendered nails. The girls aren't as up to par either regarding the bodies but that does make sense since that's the not much the focus the devs were going for, but the female bodies are imo at least decent and the shaders on their bodies and skin from the lighting are better than DOA

"You got nothing right here girl...How do you get nothing right?!"

And I have to admit I actually thought KI looked pretty good but those screens tell a different story. I don't know though, To be fair I only saw gameplay far away from the characters so that could explain why. The style of KI though I really like.

 

[KasumiLover]

Loose hair...fetish?

Umm... I don't think that is...never mind.



"You got nothing right here girl...How do you get nothing right?!"

And I have to admit I actually thought KI looked pretty good but those screens tell a different story. I don't know though, To be fair I only saw gameplay far away from the characters so that could explain why. The style of KI though I really like.

There's a fetish for loose long hair XD and I am right, DOA has good models but the shaders aren't really that good and still make it look like a ps3 game while T7 has good shaders and lighting that surpass DOA

Also I have more screenshots

Bryan is thicc, mmmmmm

I noticed that Lili's hair actually looks great in screenshots when it's not moving which I think is what they prioritized but it moves badly as a sacrifice as well. They also seem determined to keep it from ever going over her shoulders since you'll never see it over a shoulder unless it's from clipping

Story mode scene Claudio, would be perfect if only I could remove the subtitles

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[Juihau]

Bryan is thicc​

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Did he hear about everyone getting made fun of for skipping leg day and take it to the opposite extreme?.. What's up with these Chun Li legs?
Also, thicc doesn't mean muscular.

 

[KasumiLover]

Did he hear about everyone getting made fun of for skipping leg day and take it to the opposite extreme?.. What's up with these Chun Li legs?
Also, thicc doesn't mean muscular.

I don't mind those thick thighs at all, Mmmm. And he still looks thicc imo

I also noticed that unlike most of the Tekken girls, the guys do indeed have different body types. Some have bigger more muscley/thicc thighs, smaller or bigger pecs, differing ab and v line definition, etc. Like Claudio is probably the most lean male in the game, Law has the thinnest waist out of all the guys, and Akuma is the most muscular/thicc All around....oh and Gigas, I like him too although I haven't took much pics of him, he has cute butt.

The girls all share the same body like the DOA males but certain girls like Master Raven and Eliza have bigger butts, and of course boob size varies. I've spent alot of time doing "research" to know about everyone's bodies in tekken, I've ogled them all at least once bar Miguel and Heihachi and Bob and Yoshimitsu...not my type

Loose hair also looks way better in Tekken, I'm hoping the modders can actually mod Kasumi, Eliot, Naotora, and any other character i like into the game so I can see how they'll look, the tekken characters looks shitty in DOA's engine imo tho

 

[Mayor-Of-Mustard]

There's a fetish for loose long hair XD and I am right, DOA has good models but the shaders aren't really that good and still make it look like a ps3 game while T7 has good shaders and lighting that surpass DOA

Also I have more screenshots

Bryan is thicc

I noticed that Lili's hair actually looks great in screenshots when it's not moving which I think is what they prioritized but it moves badly as a sacrifice as well. They also seem determined to keep it from ever going over her shoulders since you'll never see it over a shoulder unless it's from clipping

Story mode scene Claudio, would be perfect if only I could remove the subtitles

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Damn that pink shirt on bryan. i was going to write 'bryan is thicc' but you already wrote it for me xD
i don't recognize that red lili outfit? is it unlockable or pre-order or whateva?
and last thing.
can you not turn off subtitles in settings??

there's a fetish for everything tho isn't there. like anything. a wall (donald trump?). a door. a flower crown. a book.

 

[KasumiLover]

Damn that pink shirt on bryan. i was going to write 'bryan is thicc' but you already wrote it for me xD
i don't recognize that red lili outfit? is it unlockable or pre-order or whateva?
and last thing.
can you not turn off subtitles in settings??

there's a fetish for everything tho isn't there. like anything. a wall (donald trump?). a door. a flower crown. a book.

Red outfit, you mean for Lili's? Oh that's her marching outfit, I think you can buy it instead of unlocking it and I did turn off subtitles but it doesn't turn off in movies From Story mode XD

I might actually try Bryan out, I didn't realize he was so fine...plus I love that victory pose where he gets on top of you and pounds you...man I wish he would do that to me ♡.♡ in the Azure stage with Shattered Dreams playing depressingly

Also did you want me to link my showcases? It shows all the unlocked outfits in their entirety and I included the wet shower item in the ones that have them shirtless or wearing little clothing, so far the Lili, Jin, and Xiaoyu and Nina one are the most popular, and Katarina almost has 2,000 views as of today

 

[Nikotsumi]

Also tekken does surpass DOA in terms of stages, hair detail, most textures from new or revamped outfits, shaders and lighting, and of course the detail in the male body, as well as bare feet, hands, and clipping.

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While I can give you a pass for the stages and male bodies/bare hands and feet... (I didn't even actually bother to look at them closely though lol) sorry but I completely disagree with the rest. Generally, I prefer long hair too, but oh god.... Tekken's hair looks bad and not detailed at all.

Lili looks like she's wearing those ultra cheap and bad cosplay wigs I see some people wear at anime cons, it doesn't matter if it's motion or not, it doesn't look good regardless. On ther other hand, Kasumi looks fine, despite her hair being shorter/thinner that it used to be.
I'd rather take shorter/thinner hair that actually looks good than whatever Lili has on her head.

As for the clipping, in Tekken the same hair you seem to like is the cause of clipping fests, for example Lucky Chloe's pigtails clip through the floor when she's on the ground, Marie Rose's (and any other character's) don't > DOA has better hair physics and overall it flows better.
Also, all the DOA clipping mostly comes from DLC costumes, I never notice any clipping when I play with in-game costumes, aside from Nyo's wings. They even gave collision to Honoka's glove pom-poms.

 

[Tyaren]

Yeah...I didn't want to say anything, because it by now must seem as if I am constantly berating Tekken 7's looks, but if there's one thing they majorely fucked up, it is hair. It looks terrible across the board. Just because it is unnaturally thick and layered it doesn't make it good. It also moves in a really, really weird way. Dead or Alive 5's hair, even if thin, uses superior and higher resolution alphamaps with transparency, that is actually graphically quite costly.

This hair looks really good for the stylistic that it is going for, realistic mixed with a little anime:

And not to throw any shade... >__>

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...but there's no wonder KL likes Tekken's fugly hair more, when he also prefers the completely wrong Eliot low polygon and low resolution conehead wig:

 

[KasumiLover]

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While I can give you a pass for the stages and male bodies/bare hands and feet... (I didn't even actually bother to look at them closely though lol) sorry but I completely disagree with the rest. Generally, I prefer long hair too, but oh god.... Tekken's hair looks bad and not detailed at all.

Lili looks like she's wearing those ultra cheap and bad cosplay wigs I see some people wear at anime cons, it doesn't matter if it's motion or not, it doesn't look good regardless. On ther other hand, Kasumi looks fine, despite her hair being shorter/thinner that it used to be.
I'd rather take shorter/thinner hair that actually looks good than whatever Lili has on her head.

As for the clipping, in Tekken the same hair you seem to like is the cause of clipping fests, for example Lucky Chloe's pigtails clip through the floor when she's on the ground, Marie Rose's (and any other character's) don't > DOA has better hair physics and overall it flows better.
Also, all the DOA clipping mostly comes from DLC costumes, I never notice any clipping when I play with in-game costumes, aside from Nyo's wings. They even gave collision to Honoka's glove pom-poms.

Yeah...I didn't want to say anything, because it by now must seem as if I am constantly berating Tekken 7's looks, but if there's one thing they majorely fucked up, it is hair. It looks terrible across the board. Just because it is unnaturally thick and layered it doesn't make it good. It also moves in a really, really weird way. Dead or Alive 5's hair, even if thin, uses superior and higher resolution alphamaps with transparency, that is actually graphically quite costly.

This hair looks really good for the stylistic that it is going for, realistic mixed with a little anime:

And not to throw any shade... >__>

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...but there's no wonder KL likes Tekken's fugly hair more, when he also prefers the completely wrong Eliot low polygon and low resolution conehead wig:

The DOA hair still imo seems a bit fuzzy up close and they went a bit overboard with how thin and how transparent hair is...sorry but hair isn't that thin XD. Comparing Marie Rose and Lucky Chloe, LC may have somewhat worse pigtail presentation but the movement and physics are more realistic since long hip length hair has weight to it as well as thickness, Marie Rose has hair that moves way to easily and overall all the loose hairstyles are thin, but then again DOA made it so hair could flow and move over shoulders and stuff so I can see why, but still hair isn't that thin XD DOA I can say does tied hairstyles right but their loose hair is just way too thin and see through, and unless you use Mila short hair moves very little and seems like a stapled on wig. The bangs and fringe barely even move either, I hope for DOA6 if they're gonna once again add long hair they limit how much it goes over the shoulder and actually focus on how it looks and flows so it won't wind up being so thin and as of they only have one layer of hair

Overall I prefer Tekken hair, yeah Lili has bad flowing hair but it's more as if they rendered her hair using good assets but didn't know how to actually give it good movement so they slapped on underwater physics on it for T7 arcade and never got back to fixing it. And yeah everyone in T7 hair clips through the floor if it's long from what I know but DOA has that too like for Kasumi's ponytail

And I prefer Eliot's default look since it just looks better and more casual to me, his alternate hair is ugly and is just a nerfed down version of his DOA4 hair but they made the fringe and layers shorter for no reason and removed the lovingly animated physics it once had. Leo's hair in T7 is way better and actually has movement even tho it's pretty short. And the hair textures for most of the hairstyles in game have more solid non fuzzy textures than DOA5 does, they didn't have that issue in DOA4, the only problem was how they made the hair move as if it were paper streamers in the more windy areas

 

[Mayor-Of-Mustard]

dayum this is one big debate bout hair.
yall really are dedicated to hair.
hairdy hair hair.
i think it all depends on what people like idk.

talking about hair
every single character (in DOA,) needs more alternative hairstyles, i think that would sell better than costumes, or even better make them free.

(game: take a shot every time someone says hair in this thread)

 

[Jadeinchains]

Honestly I'm enjoying the hair conversation lol. It reminds me of the kind of debates that would happen in the casual thread. ( May it raise one day )

And yes! More hairstyles for doa. This is a hairstyle I'd love Lisa to have -

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[KasumiLover]

I mean if you feel DOA hair is better I won't knock it, even I was pretty impressed with it when I played ps3 but I always did kind of have a distaste for how Kasumi looked with her loose hair, the only girls I feel have decent loose hair is Rachel, Nyotengu, Leifang, Kokoro at times, and...yeah that's pretty much it. DOA also never makes loose hair realistically the length it should be when tied, like Kasumi have bottom length or waist length when worn loose, and all the side ponytails are basically loose hair with 3 to 4 inches cut off but I won't argue about it

I found some more good poses for Tekken using versus mode so I may post them later if I get the nerf to post them on Twitter. I also got some money so if I get anymore I might get injustice 2 and Street Figter 5 if i have money left over for Peach Beach Splash

 

[Mayor-Of-Mustard]

tekken hair is okayish depending on what style you go for.
heavily prefer doa's graphics.
actually imma go play more doa after my tekken ragequit against AI steve. 8TH DAN STEVE. NONONO. EVEN KAZUMI'S EASIER NIBBA
I got Bob to Maurader which is awesome! Katarina needs to catch up tho. those two are my defo mains.
I also regret buying Katarina's tan, you barely see a difference compared to the likes of Nina's for example...but then again Nina's Irish