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The Slip Stun Thread

KING JAIMY

KING JAIMY

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Introduction
As we all know, there are different types of stuns in DOA which have the possibility guarantee certain follow-ups. Examples include: Limbo stuns, faint stuns, crumple stuns and sitdown stuns. This thread is about a very specific stun in DOA: The 'slip stun'. It only occurs if three conditions are satisfied:

1) The surface on which the opponent stands must be slippery, such as water or ice.
2) To cause a slip stun, you need to hit the opponent with a low strike.
3) Finally, the attack must land as a counter hit or hi-counter hit.

How does a slip stun look like?
@XZero264 posted a video of the animation of a slip stun:


@Corza also provided a gif showing the slip stun. This kind of slip stun can only be used as a stun opener. This specific kind of animation guarantees any mid or low follow-up 100% of the time.

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@Corza also posted two gifs showing an alternative animation of the slip stun. These stuns also count as slip stuns and are called 'trip stuns'. They can be used as a stun opener, as well as a stun extender. It can be used on any surface, but nets you more advantage on hit in water or on ice. Thus, a trip stun guarantees follow-ups on slippery surfaces, but not on any other type of surface. With regard to this thread, it will only concern trip stuns performed in water or on ice. This specific kind of animation can guarantee some high, mid or low follow-ups, but other high, mid or low-follow ups can be stagger escaped or held.

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List of Characters with guaranteed Slip Stun follow-ups (work in progress)
Note: The quality of this thread is mainly dependent on your or others' feedback! I am not proficient with every character and thus cannot provide a full list. Feel free to share any setups you have in mind. Please also share if you know a particular character doesn't have guaranteed follow-ups after a slip stun or trip stun so I can mark their names in red (see color coding).

There are a lot of characters who have at least one low strike in their arsenal which cause a slip stun and guarantee certain follow-ups. To make things easier, the character's names all received a color code. The meaning of each character's color code is as follows:

Green: Character has one or more setups which have all been confirmed to work. Note: A character's name in green doesn't necessarily mean the character's setups list is complete, but just shows the confirmed setups found so far.
Orange: Unknown if the character has any slip stun setups, or has one or more set-ups which aren't confirmed or complete.
Red: The character may or may not have a slip stun/trip stun, but doesn't have guaranteed follow-ups.

Click the spoiler tag for the character whose setup(s) you would like to see. The slip stun itself is marked in blue. All combos are guaranteed when the slip stun hits, unless specified otherwise. This is the list so far:

:akira:Akira

2K - 33P - Any juggle
2K - 6KP - Any juggle
2K - KNEE; Can be escaped on fastest SE
2K - 3K
2K - 4P+K
2K - 66P

Need confirmation on:
2K - 43P - 33P
2K - SPoD
2K - H+K charge P
2K - (2)46P
2K - 666P - (6)P - 3H+KP466P+K
2K - 666P - (6)P - 2P - (2)46P

:alpha152:ALPHA-152

2KK; gives +26 on fastest SE

:ayane:Ayane

Ayane's guaranteed mix-ups:
1P2K or BT 1P2K; 39 damage + oki
BT 3KKK; 60 damage + oki
BT 2K - 6P(3) / 6K; guarantees these two follow-ups
2K - 3PP / 66K / 66KK4; guarantees these three follow-ups

Ayane's guaranteed combos:
2H+K - 4K - PPPK; 76 damage, works on each weight class
2H+K - 4K - PK - BT 7K; 76 damage, works on lightweights and middleweights
2H+K - 4P - BT PP4PP7K or BT PP6P~K; 77 damage, all weight classes
2H+K - 3PP - BT PP4PP7K or BT PP6P~K; 89 damage, all weight classes
2H+K - 4P+K - BT PP6KK4 - BT 7K; 93 damage, all weight classes
2H+K - 4P+K - BT 6P - 66KK4 - BT 7K; 98 damage, works on all but super heavyweights
33P - 4P - BT PP4PP7K or BT PP6P~K; 72 damage, all weight classes
33P - 3PP - BT PP4PP7K or BT PP6P~K; 84 damage, all weight classes
33P - 4P+K BT PP6KK4 - BT 7K; 88 damage, all weight classes
33P - 4P+K - BT 6P - 66KK4 - BT 7K; 93 damage, works on all but super heavyweights

:bass:/:Mr. Strong:Bass / Mr. Strong

1K - 3K - 33P - To aerial opponent 41236T T; 105 damage

:bayman:Bayman

1K - 2K - 3K - 7P (Critical Burst); 63 damage until CB
1K - 3K.P+K P - 3K.P+K T; 104 damage, works on all weight classes
1K - 3K - 236P - 3K.3P+K T; 104 damage, not guaranteed on all weight classes
1K - P+K.3P+K T; 77 damage

:bradwong:Brad Wong

1KK - ... (need follow-ups)

:christie:Christie

Nothing found so far. :(

:ein:Ein

2K - 9P - H - PP6PK; 61 damage, works on all weight classes
2K - 33K - PP6PK; 65 damage, works on all weight classes
2H+K - 4H+K - BT P; 69 damage, works on all weight classes
2H+K - 4H+K - BT 2KP; 66 damage, works on all weight classes

:eliot:Eliot
1K - 8K - 6PP46P; 65 damage, works on all weight classes
1K - 33P - 6PP46P; 59 damage, works on all weight classes
1K - 2P+KP+K - 2P+K46P; 69 damage, all weight classes, launcher is NOT guaranteed

:genfu:Gen Fu

1P - 33P - 33P - Close Hit 16P; 95 damage, need to dash in to get a Close Hit, works on all weight classes
2K - 64P - 16P; 60 damage, works on all weight classes

:hayate:Hayate

BT 2P - 8K - PP6PK; 66 damage, works on all weight classes
BT 2P - 33K - PP6PK; 61 damage
BT 2P - 8P - BT PP6PK; 62 damage
BT 2P - 9KKK; 60 damage, works on all weight classes

:helena:Helena

2H+K - Bokuho 6K - 236PKP; 67 damage, all weight classes
1K4 - BT 4K - BT 4PPP; 58 damage, ends in Bokuho, all weight classes

:hitomi:Hitomi

Hi-Counter only:
PP(whiff)2K - ... (need follow-ups)

:jacky:Jacky

1P - ... (need follow-ups)

:jannlee:Jann Lee

2K(H) - 9K - PPP6P; 66 damage, all weight classes, Free Cancel recommended because of the delayable follow-up

:kasumi:Kasumi

1P - 7K.6P+K - Hoshinpo 9PK.6P+K - Hoshinpo KK (complex version); 61 damage, works on all weight classes
1P - 7K.6P+K - Hoshinpo KK (simple version); 50 damage, works on all weight classes
1P - 33K - 66K~K - 7K.P+K; 75 damage, works on middleweights or below
2K - 3H+K - PP7K.P+K; 58 damage, all weight classes
2K - 33K - 7K.6P+K - Hoshinpo KK; 60 damage, all weight classes

:kokoro:Kokoro

6P+K - 7K - BT P6P Heichu P+K; 73 damage, works on all weight classes
1K - BT P+K - 7P; guaranteed CB, only works at the 'invisible wall' on the Zack Island stage
1K - BT P+K - 33P; ?? damage
1P or Heichu 2P - 7K - BT 4P - 2KP; 63 damage, all weight classes
1P or Heichu 2P - 7K - BT P6P - P2KP; 70 damage, works on middleweights and below
1P or Heichu 2P - 7K - BT P6P - 9P - 2KP; 71 damage, works on lightweights and below
2KP - 7K; ?? damage until launcher, need to delay the punch follow-up after the slip stun and dash in to land the launcher

:La Mariposa:/:lisa:La Mariposa / Lisa

2KK4; ends back-turned
BT 2K - BT 4P

:leifang:Lei Fang

BT 2P - 9KK - 46P; 56 damage, all weight classes

:leon:Leon

1K - 2K - 3K - P+K (Critical Burst); 63 damage until CB
1K - 2P+K - 4K - To grounded opponent 2T.41236T
1K - 3K - 46P (46P is escapable on fastest SE, but is unholdable and gives advantage on block); 66 damage or +2 depending on opponent's SE
1K - 3K - 214P - To aerial opponent T; (need to dash in to land the air throw); 101 damage
1K - 214P - To aerial opponent T; 85 damage
1K - 33P - 3K - 46P; 83 damage or +5 depending on opponent's SE
1K - 33P - 7P
1K - Hold 3P - To aerial opponent T; 83 damage
1K - 7P - 66PP - To aerial opponent T (single guess setup); 108 damage
1K - 7P - 8PPP - To aerial opponent T (single guess setup); 111 damage

:marierose:Marie Rose

Marie Rose's guaranteed mix-ups:
2K - 6P(4) / 9K / 3P / 8K; guarantees these four follow-ups, gives +33 on fastest SE
3P+KP - 6P(4) / 9K / 3P; guarantees these three follow-ups, gives +31 on fastest SE
BT 2K - 6P(4) / 9K / 3P; guarantees these three follow-ups, gives +32 on fastest SE
2H+K - 6P(4); guarantees only this follow-up, gives +29 on fastest SE

Marie Rose's guaranteed combos:
1PP+K - 236P; 62 damage, all weight classes
2K - 8K - PP6PK; 53 damage, all weight classes
2K - 8K - PPP - 6PK; 60 damage, works on middleweights and below
2K - 8K - 6K4 - Rondo K - BT KKK; 75 damage, only works on featherweight

:mila:Mila

1K - Charge 7K - 6P+K (Critical Burst); 54 damage until CB, may need to dash in to land the Critical Burst
1K (recommended) or 1H+K - 3H+K - 2T and follow-ups; 27 to 77 damage
1K or 1H+K - 33P - P+K - 2T and follow-ups; 42 to 92 damage, doesn't work on super heavyweights
1K or 1H+K - 9P - P+K - 2T and follow-ups; 43 to 93 damage

:momiji:Momiji

Momiji's guaranteed mix-ups:
2H+K - 2P / 3P / 4P / 44P / P / 6P / 66P / 8P / 2K / 3K / 4K / K / 7K / 8K / H+K / 6P+K; guarantees these sixteen follow-ups, gives +21 on fastest SE
2K - All of the above + 6K; guarantees seventeen mix-ups in total, gives +22 on fastest SE

Momiji's guaranteed combos:
2H+K - 8K - 6PKKP; 88 damage, all weight classes
2H+K - 8K - 3P4P - 6PKP; works on middleweights and below
2H+K - 8K - 6PK - 6PKP; works on heavyweight and below
2H+K - 8K - 1P2K; 65 damage, all weight classes

:nyotengu:Nyotengu

2H+KK.P+K - Hiten PK - To aerial opponent T; 91 damage, works on all weight classes
BT 2P - 3P - 8PPP.P+K - Hiten P+K; 79 damage, works on all weight classes
BT 2P - H+K.P+K - Hiten PK - To aerial opponent T; 87 damage, works on all weight classes

:pai:Pai

Notthing found so far. :(

:phase4:Phase 4

2K - Any launcher except 33P; gives +33 on fastest SE

Combos involving 4K as a launcher:
2K - 4K.P+K - Chifu K.P+K - Tenfu P - 8K.P+K - Tenfu P - PPP.P+K - Chifu P; 101 damage, featherweight only
2K - 4K.P+K - Chifu K.P+K - Tenfu P - 8K.P+K - Tenfu T; 95 damage, lightweights or below
2K - 4K.P+K - Chifu K.P+K - Tenfu P - PPP.P+K - Chifu P; 80 damage, middleweights or below
2K - 4K.P+K - Chifu K.P+K - Tenfu T; 74 damage, all weight classes

Combos involving 33K as a launcher:
2K - 33K - 4P - 4K.P+K - Chifu K.P+K - Tenfu T; 94 damage, featherweight only
2K - 33K - 8K.P+K - Tenfu P - 8K.P+K - Tenfu T; 93 damage, lightweights or below
2K - 33K - 4K.P+K - Chifu K.P+K - Tenfu P - PPP.P+K - Chifu P; 90 damage, middleweights or below
2K - 33K - 4K.P+K - Chifu K.P+K - Tenfu T; 84 damage, all weight classes

:rachel:Rachel

2H+K - 9K - To aerial opponent T - 6PKP; 86 damage, works on all weight classes
2H+K - 9K - To aerial opponent T - 9P - 6KP; 88 damage, only works on lightweights
2H+K - 7P - To aerial opponent T - 6PKP; 81 damage, all weight classes
2H+K - 7P - To aerial opponent T - 9P - 6KP; 83 damage, lightweights only
2/8P+KK - 9K - PPK; 71 damage, all weight classes
1PP - 3PPP+K T; 97 damage, all weight classes

:rig:Rig
1K - Bending Stance 6K - 66K - P+K (Critical Burst); 57 damage until CB
Bending Stance 2K - Bending Stance 6K - 66K - P+K (Critical Burst); 57 damage until CB

:hayabusa:Ryu Hayabusa

2H+K - WR 4KP; 62 damage, all weight classes
2H+K - WR 4KK; 64 damage, all weight classes
2H+K - 4K4 - Ongyoin PPP; 78 damage, all weight classes
2H+K - 4K4 - Ongyoin K - WR 4KP; 85 damage, works on all but super heavyweights
2H+K - 4K4 - Ongyoin K - WR 4KK; 87 damage, works on all but super heavyweights
2H+K - 4K4 - Ongyoin K - To aerial opponent 41236T; 84 damage, works on all but super heavyweights
2H+K - 4K4 - Ongyoin P - To aerial opponent 41236T; 82 damage, works on all but super heavyweights

:sarah:Sarah

2K - 1K - 4H+K - To aerial opponent 66H+K; 61 damage, works on all weight classes

:tina:Tina

1P - H+K - 8P - To grounded opponent 2T; 70 damage, works on all weight classes

:zack:Zack

2K - 4K - 33KK - PP6PP; 83 damage, all weight classes
2K - 4K - 33KK - 7P4 - Sway PP6KK; 93 damage, middleweights or below

Credits
A huge thanks to the following people for contributing to this thread:

- @XZero264; made setups for Leon, Bayman and Mila including damage and advantage on block. Also provided a video of the animation of the slip stun.
- @Corza; provided gifs of the animation of the slip stun. Added setups for Momiji, Rachel, Kasumi, Ein, Gen Fu, Sarah, Tina, Helena, Jann Lee, Kokoro, Ayane and Nyotengu including damage. Found a hi-counter slip stun opener for Hitomi.
- @Hazard; came up with setups for Akira.
- @Nikotsumi; added setups and combos for Marie Rose, ALPHA-152, Ein, Hayate, Eliot, Nyotengu and Kasumi including damage and advantage on hit.
- @iHajinShinobi; supplied setups for Ayane and Marie Rose including damage and juggle advice.
- @ToKyo PewPew; provided setups for Phase 4 including damage, juggle advice and advantage on hit.
- @PhoenixVFIRE; added setups for Lisa.
- @Heikou; added setups for Kokoro.
 
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XZero264

XZero264

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Leon's Setups.

1K > 3K > pretty much whatever he wants (pretty much any SDS followup he has from 3K, ones listed below are his best followups)
46P (escapable on fastest SE but unholdable, advantage if blocked) - 66 Damage or 41 Damage and +2.
214P > Air Throw (dash in required for long distance 214P or buffer in a dash before the 3K) - 101 damage

1K > 33P > 3K > 46P (see above but more advantage if blocked) - 83 or 58 damage and +5, SEable on Fast. More used for advantage or fishing for a Counter Strike

1K > 214P > Air throw - 85 damage



My favorite is
1K > 2K> 3K> P+K for a CB (CB guaranteed if 3K hits, just so people know) - 63 +CB

Also, slip stun strikes are used as an opener, they can't be used in stun to get the stun, they turn into normal strike stuns.

New:
1K > Hold 3P > Air throw - 83 Damage

1K > 7P also goes into his 1 guess options
66PP > Air Throw - 108 Damage
8PPP > Air throw - 111 Damage

Bayman
1K > 3K > 236P > 3K 3P+K H+P - 104 Damage (not guaranteed on all weight classes)
1K > P+K 3P+K H+P - 77 Damage

Bayman has the same setup for a CB as Leon
1K > 2K > 3K > 7P - 63 Damage +CB
 
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KING JAIMY

KING JAIMY

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XZero264 said:
Leon's Setups.

1K > 3K > pretty much whatever he wants (pretty much any SDS followup he has from 3K, ones listed below are his best followups)
46P (escapable on fastest SE but unholdable, advantage if blocked)
214P > Air Throw (dash in required for long distance 214P)

1K > 33P > 3K > 46P (see above)

1K > 214P > Air throw

My favorite is
1K > 2K> 3K> P+K for a CB (CB guaranteed if 3K hits, just so people know)

Also, slip stun strikes are used as an opener, they can't be used in stun to get the stun, they turn into normal strike stuns.



Bayman
1K > 3K > 236P > 3K P+K H+P
1K > P+K 3P+K H+P
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Nice! Give me a moment and I will edit the OP. :)
I will also mention that a slip stun can only be used as a stun opener in the 'Introduction'.
 
Corza

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KING JAIMY said:
EDIT: Since you are a dedicated Momiji player, do you know any low strikes she has which give a slip stun with guaranteed follow-ups? If not, I will mark her name red since I can't seem to come up with any setups
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I will come up with something tomorrow after rewatching his stream. :)
 
XZero264

XZero264

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Editting to add damage numbers and advantage in.

Also, could you keep the text to a default color? Not everybody uses the FSD light.
 
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KING JAIMY

KING JAIMY

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XZero264 said:
Editting to add damage numbers and advantage in.
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I would like to, but that's a lot of work heh heh. My primary goal is to make this thread as complete as possible. Afterwards I can consider editing in damage and advantage. Unless people tell me the damage and advantage on the spot of course, then I don't have to do research myself.

EDIT: Nevermind, I misunderstood your post. Thanks for the numbers! :)
 
XZero264

XZero264

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I'm using FSD Dark and the black text used in the spoilers has to be highlighted in order to read it because I'm guessing that you change the text to black after making the Slip Stun Blue. Default text for Light is black and white for Dark. Probably best to write out the combos first then modify the Slip Stuns to be blue.

Ein's got nothing.
Hayate's got nothing


Mila...LOL
1K and 1H+K and is at +39. Probably the best one in the game at i15 for 1K. Holy cow.
Make shit up with her and it will work as long as it isn't a high strike
3H+K > 2T and followups - 27 to 77 Damage
33P > Juggle for weight class - Varies
33P > P+K > 2T on all but superheavies - 42 to 92 Damage
9P > 9P/P+K > 2T folloupws - 43 to 93 damage
Dear lord I never knew her 1K was a slip stun @Gill Hustle
GUARANTEED CRITICAL BURST!!!
Hold 7K > 6P+K - 54 Damage and CB. May need a dash in for 6P+K.
 
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XZero264

XZero264

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@ToKyo PewPew That is actually a trip stun and can be used anywhere.

A slip stun is best described as a stun in which the affected character's feet are knocked out from underneath them and the fall forward and look as though they are attempting to push themselves up into a standing position with their hands and are consdiered to be crouching during that time. Opponents are unable to SE out of it or hold out of it.
Trip stuns can be held out of. The 1K>2K>3K I mentioned for Leon can he held after the 2K because it is a trip stun.

After messing around P4 doesn't have one.
 
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Corza

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I'm using the dark layout and everything is perfectly visible. Anyways, I went into the lab (or more like Zack Island) with my shrine maiden and here's the result: Both 2K (+33) and 2H+K or BT 2K (+32) will let you do an unholdable 8P or 8K. I used fastest SE, fastest critical hold, etc.

Here's a setup idea:
2H+K, 8K, 6PKKP - 88 damage

I could probably come up with like 5 other setups, but those would be weight class specific, so I guess this one should be fine.
 
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tokiopewpew

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XZero264 said:
@ToKyo PewPew That is actually a trip stun and can be used anywhere.

A slip stun is best described as a stun in which the affected character's feet are knocked out from underneath them and the fall forward and look as though they are attempting to push themselves up into a standing position with their hands.

After messing around P4 doesn't have one.
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I see, my bad. Though it still fits all listed criterias :D
Anyway, in that case, she doesn't have one, yes.

Deleted my post to keep this thread clean.
 
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Corza

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I can record the animation in good quality if someone can turn it into a gif. :)

Edit: Nevermind, I can do everything. I have the power.
 
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KING JAIMY

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XZero264 said:
I'm using FSD Dark and the black text used in the spoilers has to be highlighted in order to read it because I'm guessing that you change the text to black after making the Slip Stun Blue. Default text for Light is black and white for Dark. Probably best to write out the combos first then modify the Slip Stuns to be blue.

Ein's got nothing.
Hayate's got nothing


Mila...LOL
1K and 1H+K and is at +39. Probably the best one in the game at i15 for 1K. Holy cow.
Make shit up with her and it will work as long as it isn't a high strike
3H+K > 2T and followups - 27 to 77 Damage
33P > Juggle for weight class - Varies
33P > P+K > 2T on all but superheavies - 42 to 92 Damage
9P > 9P/P+K > 2T folloupws - 43 to 93 damage
Dear lord I never knew her 1K was a slip stun @Gill Hustle
GUARANTEED CRITICAL BURST!!!
Hold 7K > 6P+K - 54 Damage and CB. May need a dash in for 6P+K.
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Yes that's indeed what I did! I will re-write the combos in default text so that everyone should be able to read them. Also thanks for the Mila stuff! ;)
 
KING JAIMY

KING JAIMY

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ToKyo PewPew said:
I see, my bad. Though it still fits all listed criterias :D
Anyway, in that case, she doesn't have one, yes.

Deleted my post to keep this thread clean.
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Sorry I should have been more clear but a slip stun has a special animation. Hence why I included it as a section after the Introduction. :) The problem is that I don't have a picture/video yet to show it in.
 
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