DOA5U: system tweeks/character buffs and nerfs for Team NINJA
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MasterHavik
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Max536Drago
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If you think of it my way it does break the game. Lisa going through someones body gives her advantage and adds on more guessing. Let's not forget that her whole body is going through people. There's something wrong with that alone. This is just as bad as Helena's BKO 22 dodging true mids in the past games.
MasterHavik
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Uh...there is no guessing with the Lisa glitch...did you watch the video? Btw...it also notes it's random.
Max536Drago
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She can follow up after it. Did you watch the second part of the video?
MasterHavik
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I watched the whole thing dude. It's not more guessing...it's 100% guaranteed.
Max536Drago
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Apparently not, lolololololol. If you watched it then you would of seen that it's possible to stagger escape and block. I rest my case
MasterHavik
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You never listen ..it is..you didn't watch the whole video. Your back is turn btw, so your only option is to slow escape and block which doesn't work in this situation.Apparently not, lolololololol. If you watched it then you would of seen that it's possible to stagger escape and block. I rest my case
Aven Kujo-Gin
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I have to be agree with max, if this is a glitch, it have to be solved then.
Max536Drago
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You can stagger escape when your back is turned you know. Nothing is guaranteed.
DR2K
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It was never a glitch. It was intentionally designed to duck all mids. In doa5 they allowedmids that go low to hit it. They also added more recovery.
DR2K
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There are guaranteed set ups if you paid attention to the video.
Max536Drago
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*sigh* The video says that it can be SE'd, then says nothing about the combos being guaranteed. I watched it again.
Aven Kujo-Gin
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I think something that would help the balance is make OH's universal again, what's the point of having so much throws if all do the same effect(minus little damage and execution frames)
Aven Kujo-Gin
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Then like I said, there's no point of having so much throws. Especially crouching throws.
Tenryuga
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Different throws are used to punish different moves and serve different purposes. Why use a 7i throw to punish a -30 move when you can use your 12i super launcher throw? Have your back to the wall? use the grab that switches positions with the opponent. Need to keep up the pressure? Use a throw that grants frame advantage. Some throws get additional properties from enviornments and dangerzones too.
Well, for Ryu:
STANDING THROWS
T fastest throw (but escapable). used for punishment of unsafe strings
6T quick throw that pushes the opponent forward (into walls or DZs). can punish unsafe strings and whiffs without risking escapes
66T quick throw that pushes the opponent back, reversing directions for environmental reasons. can punish unsafe strings and whiffs without risking escapes
41236T His slowest (but most powerful) throw. used for HiC punishment or very risky mix-up
214T a compromise of the speed/damage gap between the izuna and his standard throws
64T a reset throw that leaves the opponent BT with good frame advantage on HiC
4T okay, you got me. I don't really see much of a use to this
OFFENSIVE HOLDS
34T an OH, though sometimes I question this ones validity myself
8T very slow, jumping OH
ONGYOIN THROWS
T a good mix of speed and damage as a stance mix-up
8T a very slow, jumping OH
CROUCHING THROWS
T fastest crouching throw for low punishment
33T a slow crouching throw that nets huge damage. should be used as a HiC hold punish and not for standard punishment
2T a compromise between his standard low throw and the crouching izuna.
So really, he has one useless throw out of his plethora of throw options.
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