Get thicker skin. You've in so many words said that you win on counters, I point it out and now I'm attacking you.
Like Mystiks dad told me after they got me kicked out of buy.com for telling his little girl shes a BJ queen.
"Just own it."
Edit: I didn't use the words BJ queen, I just asked nicely is it true you sucked some guys cock to get onto CGI. Perfectly legitimate question considering that I've been telling people that Offbeat and Dave ran a train on her in June of 07. . . .I also tell people her tits are too big.
I wasn't crying "ooooh he attacked me", just highlighting your intentions for Awesmic since he appears to have trouble understanding why people do the things that they do sometimes.
Yea, I win from holds because Bayman's strike game is a joke and pretty much only exists to annoy my opponent into eating an OH. People who are disciplined against this have a much easier time against me. I have no trouble admitting this, its a character fallacy that my playstyle evolved with, so I found ways to turn its weaknesses into strengths against a lot of people. You wanna attack me for it, go ahead, but even if you can beat it sometimes it works pretty good on most people. Yes, it was my choice to play him and I'm not using that as any excuse for ever losing, but it is the correct way to play him and I'm not going to apologize for doing it.
For the rest of the time, I've got Leon which you never really played against much nor do I have any desire to go back and re-learn. Leon was good enough to take down Offbeat in legit competition and rape master in that terrible CGS format once he pissed me off enough that I just went berserk on him.
Leon was pretty bad against Genfu however, as most of his viable ranged lead-ins to big damage were all high and Genfu laughs at highs from range. It took me a while to really understand how and why people like PL and NinjaCW could walk all over me with Genfu but not with hayate/hitomi, but once I understood that it made a lot of sense. If we were all still playing the game.... hell maybe I could have come up with better alternative to fighting them and maybe get the upper hand, and maybe not. We'll never know because none of us care to do it.
I'm content with being seen as "just under" the big 4 by most people. I'm content with the title of Mid Boss (see the avatar?). I like my niche, I LOVE playing the characters that I do and being unique with it, and I know how to use them correctly. I regret not being picked for CGS, but only because I did not push myself hard enough to be worth dropping someone else (some may remember I got into a big fight with Dave Geffon and went on a drunken rant about him picking up Dave Cheppelle again instead of Rabies, Taikou, or myself). I do NOT regret failing to suck someones dick to get there though.
If I ever achieve anything like that in life I want it to be done honestly and with the good will of others who do things honestly, and with the fear and respect of those who don't. I don't want it to be from doing what Master does, because that will never give me what it is I
actually want.
Now you can argue the details of what it is you think master did or did not do, and how much hatred is deserved, but the facts are that he is where he is because he is dishonest and he is still doing these things to this day. I look down on that, and so does pretty much everyone else. Why would I ever want to be like him?
Thats the wrong attitude, I'm not so certain that every player whoever attended a DOA event came there to compete. I know more than a few, yourself included CE, who was just there. Not to win money, knowing you wouldn't but just to be in that environment with people you like.
Rikuto is taking an anti-social approach to this impasse. Proper moderation is all it would take to cull the bullshit that happened at DOAC. . .then again, I don't remember the fan-fic crowd posting doodles of Hayate and Bayman on a fishing trip in the general discussion forum - so our co-existence with them is only a problem in principle from what I can tell.
Well, now you run into the ambiguous definition of casual vs competitive. As Cyber said, I don't think people who are only interested in complimenting each other on their hair and writing fanfics have any business here. That domain is clearly meant for DOAW.
If a person doesn't have a lot of time to go to tournaments or play the game, but they still want to maybe get a couple of pointers on it or just see some cool shit, I believe they are entirely welcome here. This is an information pool and a community for anyone who treads the path of competition -- even a little. On DOAW I assure you there
are people who have absolutely no intention of learning anything, however, and they would just try to act like they knew what they were talking about and start fights with vets whilst being totally ignorant. We don't need that shit.
And yes, I absolutely try to teach people. I love mentoring and explaining things, along with talking theory fighter. Most people reject my offers for learning specific characters because it just doesn't fit their playstyle. When I played DOA2U and even into 4 I tried to get an apprentice or two for Bayman. No one had enough drive to take it seriously, so that went nowhere.
When SCV came out, I probably offered to teach Astaroth to like ten different people, while showing them how ridiculously good he could be, and all of them turned me down because they didn't want to play as the big guy. Laughably, Lopedo was the ONLY ONE who actually payed any attention and he just ended up mimic'ing exactly what I do instead of asking questions.
The offers remain open to anyone who cares for SCV, and I'll be happy to help people out in DOA 5 provided it's good enough that I can stomach it.