The DOA5U "Casual" thread. ^__^

[Awesmic]

'o no I accidentally left this thing on again! (:'

Why would she bring a camcorder with her to the gym anyway

On the small chance she wants her fights recorded with someone of notoriety, mainly Bass (her inspiration) or Tina (the offspring of her inspiration).

Ugh, fuck this thread. How come this is the most active thing on the whole damn forum?

Because people like me feel the most comfortable actually being myself.

 

[Russian-chiropractic19]

In a fight to the death I don't see Kasumi beating Ayane. While she was off hiding Ayane has been fighting fiends, ninjas, and alchemist Kasumi in comparison seems woefully out of practice. she doesn't even really have a speed advantage as Ayane has been shown to be capable of teleporting as well she just never uses it.

 

[Aerospark]

Kasumi vs Ayane vs Momiji?? Kasumi doesn't have a chance of winning lmao. Kasumi's been running and fighting for a long time now while in that time Ayane's been training, killing fiends, and fighting. The only real advantage Kasumi has is in the fight is probably evasiveness. Ayane would have the biggest advantage in speed, Momiji would probably have the most brute strength since she was trained bye Jesusbusa himself. I'd say Momiji would emerge victorious in this fight orz..

 

[J.D.E.]

Kasumi vs Ayane vs Momiji?? Kasumi doesn't have a chance of winning lmao. Kasumi's been running and fighting for a long time now while in that time Ayane's been training, killing fiends, and fighting. The only real advantage Kasumi has is in the fight is probably evasiveness. Ayane would have the biggest advantage in speed, Momiji would probably have the most brute strength since she was trained bye Jesusbusa himself. I'd say Momiji would emerge victorious in this fight orz..

You guys are missing the point lol. This has nothing to do with the storyline of them chasing her down. I mean during the storylines when they collide or run into each other 1 on 1, they should be forced to fight like you are in each story for DOA that has came out.

And Kasumi has defeated Ayane on 3 occasions in the storylines, Ayane beat her once. That was in DOA3. lol. That is if you're talking about how the stories have played out. DOA5 was her clone that she faced so I won't count that. The storylines have changed up since DOA5. I think the hatred has toned down more too. But I still think they'll fight.

Momiji, I just think she should fight both of them the same way that they fight. A 3 way rivalry would be great for the franchise. I can't say who win (Kasumi vs Momiji or Ayane vs Momiji), but I'm not going to be biased about & say "So & so wins because I like them more." I'm a fan of all 3. Plus, you don't know how the story would really play out, especially right now lol

 

[Brute]

Oh stop being biased lol.... It's still a rivalry

Perhaps the most 1-sided rivalry in history.

Couldn't have said it better myself @Brute.

Hey look; Angel Beats!

 

[FatalxInnocence]

Kasumi vs Ayane vs Momiji?? Kasumi doesn't have a chance of winning lmao. Kasumi's been running and fighting for a long time now while in that time Ayane's been training, killing fiends, and fighting. The only real advantage Kasumi has is in the fight is probably evasiveness. Ayane would have the biggest advantage in speed, Momiji would probably have the most brute strength since she was trained bye Jesusbusa himself. I'd say Momiji would emerge victorious in this fight orz..

Eh? You are aware that being a runaway ninja involves fighting for your life every day right? training & fighting fiends as opposed to sleeping with one eye open. Not to say fiends in the NG/DOA universe are everywhere, I highly doubt Kasumi would be lucky enough to never come across any during her time running away from highly skilled ninja ( I'm gonna be a total nerd and state they're on the equivalent of Anbu from Naruto. Which is basically the best of the best. Trained to kill. )

The only thing that would possibly get Kasumi killed is her hesitance to actually kill. Other than that, she's got all of them beaten easily. She was leader of the mugen tenshin clan for a short period =\ so she was literally the leader of a ninja clan.... c'mon... lol =\

Not to mention the history of DOA proves that Kasumi is stronger than Ayane -_- Ayane wanted her dead in DOA2 and Kasumi still won. And Kasumi didn't have the intent to kill. Which is the point I was making, she wins even without wanting to. If she was forced to, I'm pretty sure she'd be a force to be reckoned with.

~ and also Momiji, like I said we don't know enough about her to place her. But from what we've seen and heard, no. She'd be the worst of the 3... at the moment.

 

[Brute]

She was leader of the mugen tenshin clan for a short period =\ so she was literally the leader of a ninja clan.... c'mon... lol =\

Yeah, and Hayate's their current leader, so obviously that doesn't count for much.

Besides, Ayane is the current leader of the Hajinmon sect.

 

[J.D.E.]

@Brute stop being biased lol. You guys have to be open minded about this stuff like Fatal Innocence & myself. Otherwise, there would be no point in talking about it.

 

[FatalxInnocence]

Ayane is the current leader of the Hajinmon sect.

Hajinmon is still a branch of Mugen Tenshin. Hayate is Ayane's leader. SO that statement in my eyes means squat.

Going back into DOA history again, Hayate & Ayane lost to Raidou, Kasumi beat Raidou by herself. Again, proof in the history of DOA why Kasumi is stronger.

 

[Brute]

@Brute stop being biased lol. You guys have to be open minded about this stuff like Fatal Innocence & myself. Otherwise, there would be no point in talking about it.

It's like if I asked you: "Who would win in a fist fight? Bruce Lee or Ghandi?" And then you went "Bruce Lee, obviously." and then I responded by saying: "Stop being biased! You need to have an open mind; like me!"
Canonically speaking, Hayabusa is so ridiculously overpowered that the idea of Hayate challenging his skill is just laughable. And that's pretty much been TN's take on it as well. Hayate is not on a level where I would call him a legitimate rival to Hayabusa, at least not from Hayabusa's perspective.

Going back into DOA history again, Hayate & Ayane lost to Raidou, Kasumi beat Raidou by herself. Again, proof in the history of DOA why Kasumi is stronger.

Well, in Dimensions' version she had Hayabusa's assistance, lol

 

[J.D.E.]

It's like if I asked you: "Who would win in a fist fight? Bruce Lee or Ghandi?" And then you went "Bruce Lee, obviously." and then I responded by saying: "Stop being biased! You need to have an open mind; like me!"
Canonically speaking, Hayabusa is so ridiculously overpowered that the idea of Hayate challenging his skill is just laughable. And that's pretty much been TN's take on it as well. Hayate is not on a level where I would call him a legitimate rival to Hayabusa, at least not from Hayabusa's perspective.


Well, in Dimensions' version she had Hayabusa's assistance, lol

Why not? Because he lost to him on numerous occasions? Just because he's beaten him & has the overall series lead doesn't mean he's not a legit rival. It just means he's been the strongest between the 2. That's like saying that Florida State shouldn't be the National Champions since Florida has beaten them more than they've beaten them lol. Not to mention the Kasumi-Ayane rivalry series. Or The Rock-Stone Cold rivalry. Yes, Hayate is a legitimate rival to Busa. It was actually better in DOA3 though.

 

[Brute]

Why not? Because he lost to him on numerous occasions? Just because he's beaten him & has the overall series lead doesn't mean he's not a rival. [...] Yes, Hayate is a legitimate rival to Busa. It was actually better in DOA3 though.

Why not? Because ants aren't rivals to an anteater.

That's like saying that Florida State shouldn't be the National Champions since Florida has beaten them more than they've beaten them lol.

I don't follow sports or the analogy, here.

Anyway, back to the female ninjas:
imo, canon strength goes Kasumi > Ayane > Momiji

 

[FatalxInnocence]

Well, in Dimensions' version she had Hayabusa's assistance, lol

I'm kinda confused by your comments half the time rofl. So who you think is stronger? by your counter arguments I'm going to assume Ayane? you don't seem to be laying down anything solid enough for me to question my logic. Regardless of who had who's help... Kasumi has proven herself stronger than Ayane on multiple occasions within the DOA story.

I really don't care for the ninjas, and Momiji is my favourite ninja ( if I had to pick. ) so I'm just going off facts and not off "which character I prefer" cause if that was the case "Momiji is the bestest ninja in all the DOA universe!"

But seriously, Kasumi is the clear winner and people are just picking favourites. That's why these discussions always turn into bias and not actual fact based on the history of the game. Still, anything is better than what this thread/topic has been lately... right? ;D

( EDIT; OK! You said your list... ignore the top part >_>;; )

 

[Brute]

( EDIT; OK! You said your list... ignore the top part >_>;; )

ninja'd! lol

 

[J.D.E.]

That's why I think Momiji should pose as a rival to them. It would make things more interesting. And I said that Kasumi vs Ayane is 3-1 overall.

 

[FatalxInnocence]

That's why I think Momiji should pose as a rival to them. It would make things more interesting. And I said that Kasumi vs Ayane is 3-1 overall.

To be honest, I feel like if Momiji had a rival it would be Rachel. Solely to give them both someone to interact with during their story that isn't Ryu. Then again, I think Momiji would be refreshing for Kasumi in terms of interaction. They both seem incredibly nice, and it'd be interesting to see how they act towards each other since they have a common interest such as Ryu. I'm curious about how much relation the Hayabusa clan have with the Mugen Tenshin clan? is their interaction beyond Ryu?

Ayane however, has recently picked up a lot of non-ninja people to interact with. Eliot, and Hitomi. All the ninja are connected through Ryu though. I wouldn't be surprised if in the next DOA Momiji & Ryu ran into Hayate, Kasumi & Ayane at the end to fight whatever the boss is in DOA6.

 

[Russian-chiropractic19]

whatever Hayabusa has to deal with > Mugen Tenshin hit squads and Ayane is always caught up in Ryu's fights. and Rank means nothing Ryu is NOT the leader of his village, despite being the strongest ninja there. though he will be eventually and thats just because its his inheritance not because of his strength same with Kasumi. on the other hand Ayane earned her place as leader of the Hajimon. in an all out weapons drawn fight Ayane would beat Kasumi.

Momiji and Kasumi interacting sounds like the most boring thing ever.

so is their anyone here that doesn't believe Irene will become playable? i didnt take much for Rachel to make the cut and now she seems to be getting even more support than her.

 

[J.D.E.]

To be honest, I feel like if Momiji had a rival it would be Rachel. Solely to give them both someone to interact with during their story that isn't Ryu. Then again, I think Momiji would be refreshing for Kasumi in terms of interaction. They both seem incredibly nice, and it'd be interesting to see how they act towards each other since they have a common interest such as Ryu. I'm curious about how much relation the Hayabusa clan have with the Mugen Tenshin clan? is their interaction beyond Ryu?

Ayane however, has recently picked up a lot of non-ninja people to interact with. Eliot, and Hitomi. All the ninja are connected through Ryu though. I wouldn't be surprised if in the next DOA Momiji & Ryu ran into Hayate, Kasumi & Ayane at the end to fight whatever the boss is in DOA6.

Hayabusa is a friend of Hayate so therefore, since they're leader's/top notch ninjas of their brand, they support one another in duties & fights. Then of course, you know why Hayabusa always helps Kasumi, (which I don't get now since he threw it up in his face before they fought but still supports her & shows her better love than him & Ayane both combined.)

 

[Chapstick]

Momiji: So you're the Kasumi I've been hearing about! It's an honor to meet you~ *reaches out to shake hand*
Kasumi: ._. *quietly nods and shakes hand*
Momiji: (:
Kasumi: ._.
Momiji: ... ... Heh D:
Kasumi: ._.
Momiji: ... Well I'm gonna go find Ryu bye D:

At this point Kasumi is still a girl of few words from everything she's been through in the series. Her personality seems to have changed by the end of 5 but I'd like to see her character grow more in 6.

 

[Aerospark]

And Kasumi has defeated Ayane on 3 occasions in the storylines, Ayane beat her once. That was in DOA3. lol. That is if you're talking about how the stories have played out. DOA5 was her clone that she faced so I won't count that. The storylines have changed up since DOA5. I think the hatred has toned down more too. But I still think they'll fight.

If I remember correctly, it was never confirmed if Kasumi defeated Ayane & vice versa or whatever. In DOA2 or DOA4. If Ayane participated in the 1st tournament (I'm not counting DOAD at all), then the score would be 1-1 with 2 draws until we get confirmation from Team Ninja about the winners of their fights in DOA2 and 4. e3e..