The DOA5U "Casual" thread. ^__^

[ManekiNeko]

Okay, Let me get something straight cause I assume this post also comments on what I said on your status on DOAW.

Nobody dislikes ANYONE for liking the games sexual nature, hell I myself find atleast five of the girls sexually attractive and buy swimsuits for them.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought if the phrase "/ discussion" was used, that the person would not be drug by their hair back for another person to "spike the ball"? Nevertheless, I now feel obligated to answer this.

The problem is when there is just simply too much of it, two or three swimsuit packs? fine I'm down with that but adding unrealistically bouncy boob physics, SEVEN swimsuit packs some which I thought I'd never see in a mainstream DOA game (Helena's Godfather and Lisa's newest Mariposa one) and softcore gravure movies that are not only inexcusably expensive and pointless IMO 40 secs of the girl of choice splashing in the ocean lol wtf is that about?

This actually had almost nothing to do with the post I wrote, believe it or not. I don't really have a problem with the swimsuits because keep in mind, you are talking about seven packs over three games. You have DOA 5 vanilla, DOA 5 Plus on the Vita and DOA 5 Ultimate. What my point was, was simply this: I got a lot of grief over just admitting that I liked the idea of sex appeal and a decent fighter. It's a balance that is hard to maintain, but I was basically told that the majority of people only like the way you do your punches and kicks. Now fast forward to Number 13's dissertation and the idea that we shouldn't trust the majority because they only want T&A. I was simply pointing out a logical error.

The DOA 5/DOA 5+ were all bundled into one, and the DOA 5U I think adds two or three packs, IIRC. The game is only giving to people that are selling.

It's also bad when most of the sexualisation and casual aspects take over the actual game, as we all know casual or not the core game isn't in the best place right now we have characters that just completely dominate because they're so high up the ladder and then we have some wonky mids and then we have characters that can only just barely hold their own, and the netcode although light years better than vanilla, it's still mediocre compared to most fighters.

Before I settled on DOA 5U, I tried a number of games and almost all of them had the same problem. IN fact, Tekken Revolution is worse because nearly 90% of online players play either Law, Kazuma or Lili. (Lili is only played by beginners but even the experts are finding Law as the go-to player, with over 60% of the players playing as him).

The point I was making is that apparently the sex appeal sells. I didn't buy the gravure videos because I'd rather make the girls wear the costumes and fight than just watch a video of them doing things like that. But you can't deny they're selling -- if they weren't, TN wouldn't put them in the game.

I think we can agree that TN needs two different groups of individuals. One that works on the individual fighting aspects of the game, specifically that they keep characters from being too powerful, the second group are the ones who can work on the sexualization aspect. It's apparently working because even with sales of close to 1 million for Core Fighters, the game is selling a lot in DLC. Meaning even if too many people aren't buying the game, TN is still making money.

Do I think there's an overkill? Yes. Personally I think that there should be 3 or 4 different skimpy swimsuits per girl and you can customize the color scheme for each one, but you see what happens when you do that (SoulCalibur 5 has come under fire for characters being able to make a naked character).

 

[Russian-chiropractic19]

thing is why the hell would Phase 4 copy that move from Helena. as far as i know its nothing special and really doesn't show the strengths of her style like windmill bitchslaps or mid-ducking bullshit

i think its just a palm strike, you can only throw a punch in so many ways

 

[Klts3]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought if the phrase "/ discussion" was used, that the person would not be drug by their hair back for another person to "spike the ball"? Nevertheless, I now feel obligated to answer this.



This actually had almost nothing to do with the post I wrote, believe it or not. I don't really have a problem with the swimsuits because keep in mind, you are talking about seven packs over three games. You have DOA 5 vanilla, DOA 5 Plus on the Vita and DOA 5 Ultimate. What my point was, was simply this: I got a lot of grief over just admitting that I liked the idea of sex appeal and a decent fighter. It's a balance that is hard to maintain, but I was basically told that the majority of people only like the way you do your punches and kicks. Now fast forward to Number 13's dissertation and the idea that we shouldn't trust the majority because they only want T&A. I was simply pointing out a logical error.

The DOA 5/DOA 5+ were all bundled into one, and the DOA 5U I think adds two or three packs, IIRC. The game is only giving to people that are selling.



Before I settled on DOA 5U, I tried a number of games and almost all of them had the same problem. IN fact, Tekken Revolution is worse because nearly 90% of online players play either Law, Kazuma or Lili. (Lili is only played by beginners but even the experts are finding Law as the go-to player, with over 60% of the players playing as him).

The point I was making is that apparently the sex appeal sells. I didn't buy the gravure videos because I'd rather make the girls wear the costumes and fight than just watch a video of them doing things like that. But you can't deny they're selling -- if they weren't, TN wouldn't put them in the game.

I think we can agree that TN needs two different groups of individuals. One that works on the individual fighting aspects of the game, specifically that they keep characters from being too powerful, the second group are the ones who can work on the sexualization aspect. It's apparently working because even with sales of close to 1 million for Core Fighters, the game is selling a lot in DLC. Meaning even if too many people aren't buying the game, TN is still making money.

Do I think there's an overkill? Yes. Personally I think that there should be 3 or 4 different skimpy swimsuits per girl and you can customize the color scheme for each one, but you see what happens when you do that (SoulCalibur 5 has come under fire for characters being able to make a naked character).

Here we go again...

 

[Project Bokuho]

I'm looking forward to seeing Phase 4 in action. People jump to conclusions too much about characters they haven't even seen in gameplay yet.

 

[Rawbietussin]

If that bitch stolen more moves from Helena apart from 66P, I'll go sadistically ballistic until she turns back to the powdery state of a gelatin mix.

 

[Jyakotu]

If that bitch stolen more moves from Helena apart from 66P, I'll go sadistically ballistic until she turns back to the powdery state of a gelatin mix.

So you'd hate her for being a mimic? Makes a whole lot of sense.

 

[Rawbietussin]

So you'd hate her for being a mimic? Makes a whole lot of sense.

I didn't explicitly stated the word "hate" in my statement, did I?

 

[Project Bokuho]

Raidou was a mimic character. That was his skill as a Rouge Ninja, outside of...well...making Ayane.

 

[ManekiNeko]

So you'd hate her for being a mimic? Makes a whole lot of sense.

Logic in the FGC? You're expecting a very tall order.

 

[Kodachi]

I'm looking forward to seeing Phase 4 in action. People jump to conclusions too much about characters they haven't even seen in gameplay yet.

It's not necessarily a bad thing, the best part is seeing the reaction of the people who were completely wrong. hehe

 

[Jyakotu]

Raidou was a mimic character. That was his skill as a Rouge Ninja, outside of...well...making Ayane.

If Phase-4 were to be the new mimic, then I'm all over her.

 

[Rawbietussin]

"Cover songs are nice but nothing beats the original." - I-No

I honestly don't think it was necessary for her to copy off people apart from the 4 ninjas.

 

[UpSideDownGRUNT]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought if the phrase "/ discussion" was used, that the person would not be drug by their hair back for another person to "spike the ball"? Nevertheless, I now feel obligated to answer this.



This actually had almost nothing to do with the post I wrote, believe it or not. I don't really have a problem with the swimsuits because keep in mind, you are talking about seven packs over three games. You have DOA 5 vanilla, DOA 5 Plus on the Vita and DOA 5 Ultimate. What my point was, was simply this: I got a lot of grief over just admitting that I liked the idea of sex appeal and a decent fighter. It's a balance that is hard to maintain, but I was basically told that the majority of people only like the way you do your punches and kicks. Now fast forward to Number 13's dissertation and the idea that we shouldn't trust the majority because they only want T&A. I was simply pointing out a logical error.

The DOA 5/DOA 5+ were all bundled into one, and the DOA 5U I think adds two or three packs, IIRC. The game is only giving to people that are selling.



Before I settled on DOA 5U, I tried a number of games and almost all of them had the same problem. IN fact, Tekken Revolution is worse because nearly 90% of online players play either Law, Kazuma or Lili. (Lili is only played by beginners but even the experts are finding Law as the go-to player, with over 60% of the players playing as him).

The point I was making is that apparently the sex appeal sells. I didn't buy the gravure videos because I'd rather make the girls wear the costumes and fight than just watch a video of them doing things like that. But you can't deny they're selling -- if they weren't, TN wouldn't put them in the game.

I think we can agree that TN needs two different groups of individuals. One that works on the individual fighting aspects of the game, specifically that they keep characters from being too powerful, the second group are the ones who can work on the sexualization aspect. It's apparently working because even with sales of close to 1 million for Core Fighters, the game is selling a lot in DLC. Meaning even if too many people aren't buying the game, TN is still making money.

Do I think there's an overkill? Yes. Personally I think that there should be 3 or 4 different skimpy swimsuits per girl and you can customize the color scheme for each one, but you see what happens when you do that (SoulCalibur 5 has come under fire for characters being able to make a naked character).

Actually, I wasn't really quoting your post directly I just saw what you said about people disliking you for saying you like the sexualisation and used it to sort of explain my views on it and why I have a disdain for the sexualisation in DOA5 at this given time.

Basically, Although it does sell cuz I imagine there's alot more players who just play the game for the girls or the casual aspects of the game over the actual hardcore fighting portion of the game, doesn't mean they shouldn't atleast try to make the fighting more stable 1.04 was the only real balance patch since 5U came out, 1.02 fixed some issues and 1.03 fixed Rachel's stomp and changed some things on Momiji and that's it but yet 5U is still a mess balance wise and that's what I was talking about. It also makes the game look ridiculous and at tournaments there's always someone talking trash about it in the chat and usually doesn't help when OMG physics are on and stuff.

What you said about Law eems different to what I was talking about that's more popularity I was talking about characters like Sarah who have plus frames everywhere and fast and deal good damage quick, while characters like Ein are bottom of the barrel, slow, barely do decent damage without working for it and has pretty poor MUs against most of the cast. which really it shouldn't be like that.

Atleast we can agree on something, I'd prefer it if there was like 2 - 3 swimsuits for each girl and maybe some male sex appeal for the female fans and Gaymers and leave it at that there's no need to add anything after that anymore is just overkill.

 

[Project Bokuho]

"Cover songs are nice but nothing beats the original." - I-No

I honestly don't think it was necessary for her to copy off people apart from the 4 ninjas.

The reason why Phase 4 has moves from more than just the Ninja is because Rig was collecting data from everyone in the story.

 

[Yurlungur]

she's going to be basically seth from street fighter isn't she? Oh god i'm not
looking forward to christie's speed, ayane's crushes, bass's throws, helena's stun game all in one character

 

[Rawbietussin]

Sarah's frame advantage

 

[Baal bal]

she's going to be basically seth from street fighter isn't she? Oh god i'm not
looking forward to christie's speed, ayane's crushes, bass's throws, helena's stun game all in one character

A monster would be born if so XD

 

[Kronin]

Everyone is jumping to the conclusions, we don't know nothing of her fighting style, everything is based on speculations but from what we know could be completely wrong.

Let's wait for a proper trailer before for giving for granted anything.

 

[Russian-chiropractic19]

should get one tommarow

 

[Argentus]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought if the phrase "/ discussion" was used, that the person would not be drug by their hair back for another person to "spike the ball"? Nevertheless, I now feel obligated to answer this.



This actually had almost nothing to do with the post I wrote, believe it or not. I don't really have a problem with the swimsuits because keep in mind, you are talking about seven packs over three games. You have DOA 5 vanilla, DOA 5 Plus on the Vita and DOA 5 Ultimate. What my point was, was simply this: I got a lot of grief over just admitting that I liked the idea of sex appeal and a decent fighter. It's a balance that is hard to maintain, but I was basically told that the majority of people only like the way you do your punches and kicks. Now fast forward to Number 13's dissertation and the idea that we shouldn't trust the majority because they only want T&A. I was simply pointing out a logical error.

The DOA 5/DOA 5+ were all bundled into one, and the DOA 5U I think adds two or three packs, IIRC. The game is only giving to people that are selling.



Before I settled on DOA 5U, I tried a number of games and almost all of them had the same problem. IN fact, Tekken Revolution is worse because nearly 90% of online players play either Law, Kazuma or Lili. (Lili is only played by beginners but even the experts are finding Law as the go-to player, with over 60% of the players playing as him).

The point I was making is that apparently the sex appeal sells. I didn't buy the gravure videos because I'd rather make the girls wear the costumes and fight than just watch a video of them doing things like that. But you can't deny they're selling -- if they weren't, TN wouldn't put them in the game.

I think we can agree that TN needs two different groups of individuals. One that works on the individual fighting aspects of the game, specifically that they keep characters from being too powerful, the second group are the ones who can work on the sexualization aspect. It's apparently working because even with sales of close to 1 million for Core Fighters, the game is selling a lot in DLC. Meaning even if too many people aren't buying the game, TN is still making money.

Do I think there's an overkill? Yes. Personally I think that there should be 3 or 4 different skimpy swimsuits per girl and you can customize the color scheme for each one, but you see what happens when you do that (SoulCalibur 5 has come under fire for characters being able to make a naked character).

I just don't think they should be giving skimpy outfits to the girls who wouldn't/shouldn't "wear" them. that's all.