Lol, sorry dude. I'm sure I contributed to your hatred of Ayane through my trolling xD.
Character you dont like fighting?
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JusTheBest29
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My least favorite characters to fight are Christie, Gen Fu, Sarah, and Jacky.
Yurlungur
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I can write an essay on why that bitch is broken
If you think Ayane is "broken", I can bitch about GenFu, Helena, Christie and Sarah just as much.
Ayane gets raped easily offline if the player isn't on point nearly all the time. Once the Ayane player starts making mistakes, it's all downhill.
abelnog91
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Thanks for the advise i guess i'll take my time to do that. I can beat them on the easier difficultuties right now but when it comes to hard and everything after that it just gets frustrating as fuck
Your welcome. You have to be very patient when dealing with a VF. Don't attempt to attack "out of turn". Look at their strings and see when there are opportunities to interrupt them or know when they're at noticeable negative frames. Under most circumstances, you should try to zone them as much as possible. VF's hate "keepaway" characters like Ayane, because they're forced to play your game as opposed to what ever jacked up VF-meets-DOA game they're playing.
Yurlungur
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so? There are many characters like that and they still have less tools then her
Xernuht
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I think I can actually pin down what I really hate about some of my personal match-ups.
VS Christie: Without actually knowing her frame data, she defies my logic on safety. She has a 9-frame jab to stuff mostly every character I play seriously. She's heavier than she looks. She literally deceives me in all regards.
VS VF: Well, it's the VFs. I can't really say anything that hasn't been said... except it doesn't feel so bad being pounded into paste by Akira and Jacky.
VS Ayane: I feel almost okay with this match-up, but as I've said to Force_of_Nature during casuals, she feels like she launches you after EVERYTHING that isn't a frame-trap. But the most annoying thing I've found about her? Her 2P. That goddamn 2P reaches for miles.
VS Christie: Without actually knowing her frame data, she defies my logic on safety. She has a 9-frame jab to stuff mostly every character I play seriously. She's heavier than she looks. She literally deceives me in all regards.
VS VF: Well, it's the VFs. I can't really say anything that hasn't been said... except it doesn't feel so bad being pounded into paste by Akira and Jacky.
VS Ayane: I feel almost okay with this match-up, but as I've said to Force_of_Nature during casuals, she feels like she launches you after EVERYTHING that isn't a frame-trap. But the most annoying thing I've found about her? Her 2P. That goddamn 2P reaches for miles.
Why isn't Gen Fu on every list?
Argentus
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because nobody uses gen fu, so nobody has to fight him. and on the rare occassions they do, he's still not as obnoxious to go against as certain other characters.
Yurlungur
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It's very rare there's a good gen fu and you can murder the scrubby ones easy because it's like lol 33p = win!!
Because Sarah v Ryu is actually dumber than Gen Fu v Ryu.
Because there's only like, 3 people, that use him. If he was even remotely used regularly, he'd annoy the fuck out of everyone online. Anyone that has fought a semi-decent GenFu knows how retarded as fuck he is, both online and offline (whereas most characters are only annoying online).
Actually he is if the opponent at least somewhat knows what they're doing or knows what his cheap shit is.
Xernuht said:
Lol, Ayane's 2P is great isn't it xD? Arguably the best 2P in the whole game!
Also, Momiji launches pretty easily too =P.As for Christie, my issue with her is that she's too damned well-rounded. She's like Cervantes from SCV, she's effective at too much compared to most of the cast. She can dominate in close, she can fight at range, she's evasive as hell, has one of the most annoying 6P's and gets a 9-frame jab while also being a Middleweight. I mess around with her occasionally, and my Christie is basic as fuck, yet she's not too far off from my Ayane in terms of effectiveness, which is actually kinda annoying considering how much damn work I put into making my Ayane somewhat competent. It feels like Christie has all these great tools working in her favour and you can still be effective with a relatively straightforward gameplan with her.
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=( There has to be someone you like. Ein? Bass? Eliot? Tina?
Chapstick
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-Ein TORIYAHs me to death. I always run in expecting it and try to parry/hold/SS yet the commands drop and I get blown across the screen AGAIN. Something about getting shot across the screen pisses me off.
-Bass always gets me with that damn low punch that crushes everything and his OHs get me too.
-Eliot in the hands of someone that's good with him is scary, but I suppose that's how it always is with everyone. Have practically no experience fighting him so I don't know how. This is why I hate fighting a good chunk of the roster.
-Tina is interesting, I can't fight her for crap. She always crushes me. I get crushed a lot, I blame Kasumi's hitboxes. xD
Basically my hatred of the roster is entirely my fault because my fundamentals are bad and I don't have enough experience.
-Ein TORIYAHs me to death. I always run in expecting it and try to parry/hold/SS yet the commands drop and I get blown across the screen AGAIN. Something about getting shot across the screen pisses me off.
-Bass always gets me with that damn low punch that crushes everything and his OHs get me too.
-Eliot in the hands of someone that's good with him is scary, but I suppose that's how it always is with everyone. Have practically no experience fighting him so I don't know how. This is why I hate fighting a good chunk of the roster.
-Tina is interesting, I can't fight her for crap. She always crushes me. I get crushed a lot, I blame Kasumi's hitboxes. xD
Basically my hatred of the roster is entirely my fault because my fundamentals are bad and I don't have enough experience.
So you lack Match-Up knowledge then? No wonder you hate on other characters no matter how low tier they are (also, I'm pretty sure there are hoards of people that can't stand fighting Kasumi's ass online)
Basically, I'd hate to see you fight a good GenFu, Helena, Christie, Ayane or hell, Brad Wong or Zack. It seems silly to hate fighting someone just because you don't know how to fight them. You should embrace these MU's.
For example, I actually enjoy fighting Brad Wong or Ryu Hayabusa offline, because they force you to pay attention to what they're doing.
Ryu is doing a whole lot of nonsense that can be beaten by a standing guard, lol