What should DOA6's story focus on?

Your choice here affects the outcome of the world.

  • Marie embarks on a quest to fetch Helena the mystical Genra milk.

    Votes: 2 7.1%
  • Honoka discoveres that Raidou IS HER FATHER (Star Wars style) and must kill him.

    Votes: 3 10.7%
  • Marie and Honoka having wacky adventures involving milk, dinosaurs, milk, cabbages, and milk.

    Votes: 5 17.9%
  • More of that ninjas vs DOATEC crap. (Don't pick this.) (Seriously.)

    Votes: 7 25.0%
  • Other (specify below)

    Votes: 11 39.3%

  • Total voters
    28

Darkslay

Well-Known Member
Well, he is old enough.



Pretty much. Leon can have her instead.



Someone plays a bit of Tekken, because that kind of reveal would be a little too much like Alisa.



Hell, replace Kasumi with Hayate and get some real closure.

That would be pretty sad actually lol.

Leon?? i don't see that working out either, you know, with the whole Laura thing lol.

Why yes i do good sir, although it didn't remind me of that, it reminded me of the NEST's saga from KOF.

Maybe all three then, the whole Ayane vs Kasumi thing is just getting annoying now in my opinion.
 

Project Bokuho

Lady Helena's Pet
Premium Donor
Well, we already know that Jann may have some relevance due to that incident with Rig. So that's a given. As for killing off Genfu? I don't know if TN will actually do that.

All characters are trapped in Freedom Survivor. The boat sinks. Honoka escapes with her huge floats. Everybody else dies.
You watch way too much Titanic lol
 

Xernuht

Well-Known Member
That would be pretty sad actually lol.

Leon?? i don't see that working out either, you know, with the whole Laura thing lol.

Why yes i do good sir, although it didn't remind me of that, it reminded me of the NEST's saga from KOF.

Maybe all three then, the whole Ayane vs Kasumi thing is just getting annoying now in my opinion.

First off, LeonxNyotengu was a joke.

Since Kasumi vs Ayane is mostly dead now, I'd rather see Kasumi pursue a rivalry with someone she hasn't already killed. This is better filled by Phase-4 or Rig at this point.
 

Project Bokuho

Lady Helena's Pet
Premium Donor
I just now remembered Itagaki's script. What are your thought's on that guys? It looks like a really interesting push, knowing that the Mugen Tenshin Villiage is destroyed (finally...) :)
 

KwonJigglypuff

Well-Known Member
Well, we already know that Jann may have some relevance due to that incident with Rig. So that's a given. As for killing off Genfu? I don't know if TN will actually do that.


You watch way too much Titanic lol

I know, it's one of my favourite movie.
But seriously, MIST hijacking Freedom Survivor would be epic. Christie trying to trap Helena in her office. Bass and Tina saving random people. And this. All our favourite gathered in the same place... I just love huis-clos fiction!

Also, most of the tournament taking place on this huge boat would be great in terms of writing. There would be a lot of halts/stopovers everywhere in the world, which totally justifies the diversity of the stages. Also Freedom Survivor was one of the best stages in DOAD. Plus, the sinking of the boat would make a great climax/cliffhanger. Who died ? Who will come back ?

Look, a newcomer!

Abisha
He is the prince of a small fictive island in the middle of the Indian Ocean. One day, while he was performing Kalaripayuttu on the beach, he saw his village being taken by MIST. All his family and people just vanished. Apparently, Victor Donovan wanted to build a lab there to make some experiments. With some of his pirate friends, Abisha decides to board Freedom Survivor, in order clandestinely take part in the 6th tournament and save his fellows...

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(not my drawing)
 

Darkslay

Well-Known Member
First off, LeonxNyotengu was a joke.

Since Kasumi vs Ayane is mostly dead now, I'd rather see Kasumi pursue a rivalry with someone she hasn't already killed. This is better filled by Phase-4 or Rig at this point.

I would have been shocked if it wasn't a joke lol.

It has to be P4, Lee still has a score to settle with Rig.

I know, it's one of my favourite movie.
But seriously, MIST hijacking Freedom Survivor would be epic. Christie trying to trap Helena in her office. Bass and Tina saving random people. And this. All our favourite gathered in the same place... I just love huis-clos fiction!

Also, most of the tournament taking place on this huge boat would be great in terms of writing. There would be a lot of halts/stopovers everywhere in the world, which totally justifies the diversity of the stages. Also Freedom Survivor was one of the best stages in DOAD. Plus, the sinking of the boat would make a great climax/cliffhanger. Who died ? Who will come back ?

Look, a newcomer!

Abisha
He is the prince of a small fictive island in the middle of the Indian Ocean. One day, while he was performing Kalaripayuttu on the beach, he saw his village being taken by MIST. All his family and people just vanished. Apparently, Victor Donovan wanted to build a lab there to make some experiments. With some of his pirate friends, Abisha decides to board Freedom Survivor, in order clandestinely take part in the 6th tournament and save his fellows...

belly_dancer_by_abishathedancer-d7flcey.png
(not my drawing)

I would actually like DOA6 to have to no "tournament" and more for the story to reach its climax, were everyone comes together for their own specific goals.

That desing looks fantastic btw, we need another male newcomer TN. -_-
 

J.D.E.

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Standard Donor
First off, LeonxNyotengu was a joke.

Since Kasumi vs Ayane is mostly dead now, I'd rather see Kasumi pursue a rivalry with someone she hasn't already killed. This is better filled by Phase-4 or Rig at this point.
It's not dead. Never will be. They will always be rivals. It's more of a competitive rivalry now since they've actually learned to get along with each other better since their childhood. Around DOA to DOA2, they were more of adversaries than just "rivals" because Ayane wanted to kill her, but couldn't because either she was defeated or Kasumi would put the fight on hold somehow. It's more of "Who's the strongest" now. Sort of like Goku & Vegeta, Eiji & Kayin, Scorpion & Sub-Zero, & Ryu & Ken.

Me personally, I don't think a character in any fighting game can have a storyline or angle without a rivalry of some sort. That's why I've been saying that if Momiji were to somehow to be in the story in the next game (If there is a next game), then more than likely, she'll form a rivalry with them both making it a triple threat. If not her, then it will be someone else close with similarities & differences.

Edit: I also read here once that "Kasumi was not anti-hero". Yes, she technically is. She has a kind-hearted personality but doesn't like to fight when it's nothing convenient for her. Her leaving the village to fight to kill Raidou is an example. Her reasons for entering the other tournaments are too since they were basically to find her brother. The 4th one she tried to stop him from attacking DOATEC but when she got there, she saw that she HAD to fight them too. DOA5 she got involved because again, family, friends & clan matters.

She fights for good intentions, or when she's forced to. DOATEC for an example is when she's forced to fight because 1, they're straight up evil & 2, her clan, friends & family are usually involved with their dirty deeds
 
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Xernuht

Well-Known Member

So Itagaki was going to bury the hatchet too... huh.

It's not dead. Never will be. They will always be rivals. It's more of a competitive rivalry now since they've actually learned to get along with each other better since their childhood. Around DOA to DOA2, they were more of adversaries than just "rivals" because Ayane wanted to kill her, but couldn't because either she was defeated or Kasumi would put the fight on hold somehow. It's more of "Who's the strongest" now. Sort of like Goku & Vegeta, Eiji & Kayin, Scorpion & Sub-Zero, & Ryu & Ken.

Me personally, I don't think a character in any fighting game can have a storyline or angle without a rivalry of some sort. That's why I've been saying that if Momiji were to somehow to be in the story in the next game (If there is a next game), then more than likely, she'll form a rivalry with them both making it a triple threat. If not her, then it will be someone else close with similarities & differences.

Well, there is that.

Momiji's rival? Maybe Nyotengu as a throwback to her playable debut in NGS2? Maybe Kokoro because why the hell not? I just can't see her as a legitimate rival for Kasumi/Ayane/both of them. It'll probably be Rachel due to them being NG heroines.

A shame, considering how I'd kinda dig seeing a friendly rivalry between Rachel and Leon form if Leon returns to the story. One good fight with the two powerhouse characters would be sick.

Edit: I also read here once that "Kasumi was not anti-hero". Yes, she technically is. She has a kind-hearted personality but doesn't like to fight when it's nothing convenient for her. Her leaving the village to fight to kill Raidou is an example. Her reasons for entering the other tournaments are too since they were basically to find her brother. The 4th one she tried to stop him from attacking DOATEC but when she got there, she saw that she HAD to fight them too. DOA5 she got involved because again, family, friends & clan matters.

She fights for good intentions, or when she's forced to. DOATEC for an example is when she's forced to fight because 1, they're straight up evil & 2, her clan, friends & family are usually involved with their dirty deeds

The problem is that the 90's era of comics has ruined the term 'anti-hero', making it seem like anti-heroes are just characters like Punisher and Cable. At this point, the main ninja are all anti-heroes. They aren't pursuing Donovan for inherently just reasons, they're out to kick his ass for ruining their lives.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but the only pure heroes in DOA so far are Eliot (taking the Ryu path of building upon his abilities with no ulterior motives, and not succumbing to any particular obsession) and Gen Fu (enters to save his family), and they're relegated to the B plot.
 

J.D.E.

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Standard Donor
So Itagaki was going to bury the hatchet too... huh.



Well, there is that.

Momiji's rival? Maybe Nyotengu as a throwback to her playable debut in NGS2? Maybe Kokoro because why the hell not? I just can't see her as a legitimate rival for Kasumi/Ayane/both of them. It'll probably be Rachel due to them being NG heroines.

A shame, considering how I'd kinda dig seeing a friendly rivalry between Rachel and Leon form if Leon returns to the story. One good fight with the two powerhouse characters would be sick.



The problem is that the 90's era of comics has ruined the term 'anti-hero', making it seem like anti-heroes are just characters like Punisher and Cable. At this point, the main ninja are all anti-heroes. They aren't pursuing Donovan for inherently just reasons, they're out to kick his ass for ruining their lives.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but the only pure heroes in DOA so far are Eliot (taking the Ryu path of building upon his abilities with no ulterior motives, and not succumbing to any particular obsession) and Gen Fu (enters to save his family), and they're relegated to the B plot.
It's really hard to tell. I mean out of all the ninjas, Ryu Hayabusa & Momiji are the 2 who have heroic characteristics. Hayate, Ayane, & Kasumi all have characteristics of antiheroes, but the intentions are usually good (which leads me to believe that they are antiheroes).

Ayane on the other hand, was kind of a mash-up because when I started playing the games, she came across to me as a Neutral aligned character but leaned more towards the sadistic side because she entered the tournaments (DOA1 & 2) only to kill Kasumi. Later on, through DOA's 3 to 5, it was more of anti-heroic deeds with NG to show for it too, but still her & sister are rivals.

Kasumi is obviously the clear one who seems more of an antihero but leaned more towards the heroic side because of her intentions. Raidou attacking her clan village & nearly killing her brother was the reason why she left (no one else was going to do anything about it). The other reasons were to either find her brother, talk, or to help fight when she obviously has no other choice to. They're usually good reasons.

Hayate is a bit of confusion. I honestly wanna say that he's good, but it's hard to tell because yeah he has a good relationship with Hitomi other than the rest of the ninjas especially Ryu who usually aids him on the side in NG through Ayane's help & her as a messenger, but would he really be involved in the fight against evil with Ryu if his family & ninja clan wasn't involved in DOATEC's dirt.
 

TLEE SAID THIS:

Active Member
Dead or Alive 6: Marie and Honoka's Awesome Adventure

You don't have to be a writer to know that DOA5's story was an afterthought. It was cheesy, some fight sequences felt forced and were at times trivial, and overall had the depth of a bad pornographic film. You'd think that a game about a fighting tournament would be mostly about the tournament, but the DOA tournament itself felt like it was thrown in for the sake of any of the characters who wasn't a ninja. The ending wasn't very surprising or satisfying either.

While the cinematic story structure isn't solely to blame, whoever wrote the story disregarded any form of character depth or development. None of the characters were very engaging. They were all simple and very anime-ish, which is a problem considering anime isn't mainstream out here, an.d by the end of the story, were largely unchanged. The way the characters are right now would have worked in the 90's, but standards have changed since then, and you can't have a story where none of the characters develop at all.

I'm hoping that the sequel would drop the MK9 cinematic story structure and return to the arcade format and supplement it by including something in lieu of a quest mode like in Soul Calibur 2. When DOA starts having interesting characters, then they can return to the cinematic format.

In regards to DOA6, through the power of fandom, I would jump skip the game several years into the future, where most of the cast has matured, with some moving on, and brand new faces are introduced. They could either finally finish Donovan, or have the story imply that Donovan was killed years ago. Helena can either continue maintaining DOATEC, step down, or be assassinated and have a new leader takes her place (this could serve as the basis for the story), though this would no longer make Kokoro as relevant since she barely knows Helena, but a relationship or realization can be implied through internal monologues or flashbacks. That new leader could begin the next DOA tournament.

Kasumi still is in hiding or retires into a common life while in hiding and maybe have a family, or the hunt for her head could have been terminated by Hayate and she could just be exiled from her clan. I'm not sure if main branches in clans are allowed to marry sub-branches, so I'm not sure what to do with Ayane or Hayate. Since Kasumi won't be present, maybe as an unlockable character with new skills, Ayane could inherit some of her techniques. Hayate is head of the clan. Ryu doesn't change, but is a little more older. Bayman is aged and either continues work as a mercenary or retires and teaches new recruits. There no longer is a dangling relationship between Leifang and Jann Lee, who has moved on from his fight with Rig, and using the winnings from the previous tournament, they both run an orphanage in China where they teach kids martial arts. Gen Fu passes from natural causes and Elliot takes his place as master while inheriting some of his techniques and watches over his granddaughter while teaching her martial arts. Bass retires, while Tina is still in the game. Leon is retired. Hitomi teaches her father's dojo while also working or pursuing graduate studies. Christie is still an assassin. Lisa drops her mantle as La Mariposa, she no longer works for MIST and is an environmental scientist. Kokoro is a geisha and trains other maikos, but she is anchored over Donovan being her father. Mila is still an MMA fighter, but has gotten cockier and playful over the years for being the best for so long. Rig changes identity and is the one who probably organizes Helena's takedown or works as a CEO for a different company bent on continuing Donovan's work. Momiji through Honoka, I'm not sure where they go because I fell as though they don't fit in my fiction.
 

synce

Well-Known Member
I think the idea of aging characters is cool (as long as it's actual aging and not what TN did with DOA5 lol). SC5 also fucked up by doing a HUGE timeskip and killing off characters. Just skip ahead 3-5 years, keep everyone alive, and it'll be good...

What I've always wanted to see was a series that had characters age in real time. Although it might be tricky to replace characters when they're too old since everyone can't suddenly have a protege
 

TLEE SAID THIS:

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I don't like your approach. Erasing all these characters from my childhood to build nothing really exciting, that reminds me of SC5. And killing Helena... well.. DOA wouldn't be the same for me anymore.
I could have wrote more, but I got nervous as soon as I realized how big my post was. Besides, it was only an idea. Helena doesn't have to die. :cool:
 
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