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Why do so many people dislike the VF cast?

Lulu

Lulu

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Calintzsan said:
What system do you play on? I'll be happy to teach you Sarah anytime. Just don't get discouraged about using her since among the several people I've trained with Sarah, a few of them have done the same thing. The most common reaction is that she's too hard to learn, but in all honesty Akira beats her. :p

My first time actually using Akira I tried his combo challenge and managed to get 80% complete, but man that one frame knee is a monster. Couldn't get it consistently. Much respect to DestructionBomb and other Akira players that can do it regularly.
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I'm on the 360. And I don't have gold membership. :oops:
 
DestructionBomb

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Calintzsan said:
What system do you play on? I'll be happy to teach you Sarah anytime. Just don't get discouraged about using her since among the several people I've trained with Sarah, a few of them have done the same thing. The most common reaction is that she's too hard to learn, but in all honesty Akira beats her. :p

My first time actually using Akira I tried his combo challenge and managed to get 80% complete, but man that one frame knee is a monster. Couldn't get it consistently. Much respect to DestructionBomb and other Akira players that can do it regularly.
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He's the hardest character to use in the game but he is very fun to use. But yeah, only PS4 here on my side.
 
Calintzsan

Calintzsan

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DestructionBomb said:
He's the hardest character to use in the game but he is very fun to use. But yeah, only PS4 here on my side.
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Aww, well that's a bummer. Would have been nice to spar. :/

Yeah, I was getting into his combos and stuff. Was pretty intense, lol. He can be a fun character to use for sure, but in my case I'd have to re-map my controller settings in order to use his one frame knee. Or I'm missing an easier setup or way to do it.

Lulu said:
I'm on the 360. And I don't have gold membership. :oops:
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Well that's alright, no big deal. ;)
 
Lulu

Lulu

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Akira has some pretty insane knock back on some of his attacks.... an agressive Akira player shouldn't have any trouble getting someone to a wall.
 
Calintzsan

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Lulu said:
Akira has some pretty insane knock back on some of his attacks.... an agressive Akira player shouldn't have any trouble getting someone to a wall.
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Yup, exactly. The Akira player I mentioned previously was very aggressive, so I had to adapt quickly to him in order to not get smothered. My sidestep attacking and timing of pokes improved a lot within that short amount of time because of that. I would hold more, but I don't like guessing holds, since I get into the habit of overusing them if I do. Akira is a great character to play against to improve certain aspects of defense and tactics, since he's so fast and hard hitting.
 
Lulu

Lulu

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Calintzsan said:
Yup, exactly. The Akira player I mentioned previously was very aggressive, so I had to adapt quickly to him in order to not get smothered. My sidestep attacking and timing of pokes improved a lot within that short amount of time because of that. I would hold more, but I don't like guessing holds, since I get into the habit of overusing them if I do. Akira is a great character to play against to improve certain aspects of defense and tactics, since he's so fast and hard hitting.
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LoL.... thats what the AI does with Akira if you turn up the knob on the difficulty...... he's a colossal turtle and Counter hits the living crap out of button mashers.
 
Calintzsan

Calintzsan

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Lulu said:
LoL.... thats what the AI does with Akira if you turn up the knob on the difficulty...... he's a colossal turtle and Counter hits the living crap out of button mashers.
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Yeah, on level 8 he's pretty turtle heavy (on all difficulties actually), but he certainly times things well and crushes careless players.

I personally don't like facing the CPU ever, but if there's an instance where I would find playing them helpful, it's the difficulties 6-8 aggressive amount of accurate holding that they do. Can't even describe how accurate they are with that, and then when I try to throw punish their holds, they never hold, lol. It's good for timing when to attack after they hold, which is something I want to get better at instead of throw punishing all the time.
 
Lulu

Lulu

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Calintzsan said:
Yeah, on level 8 he's pretty turtle heavy (on all difficulties actually), but he certainly times things well and crushes careless players.

I personally don't like facing the CPU ever, but if there's an instance where I would find playing them helpful, it's the difficulties 6-8 aggressive amount of accurate holding that they do. Can't even describe how accurate they are with that, and then when I try to throw punish their holds, they never hold, lol. It's good for timing when to attack after they hold, which is something I want to get better at instead of throw punishing all the time.
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LoL... ironocally this seems to happen alot with Pai Chan.... she never miss a hold and never gets punished for holding...

Theres this thing the AI use to do back in 5 Vanilla where if they held too soon they they would side step your attacks.... this stopped happening in 5U..... but when ever I use Sarah Or Jacky then it starts doing it again. Actually the AI side steps ferociously whenever I pick a VF Character..... fine by me..... I like throwing anyway.
 
SweetSauceBoss

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VF characters don't have flashy combos? Really? Have you seen Jacky? He has a freaking move affectionately nicknamed "Flash Kick" and it's essentially for his high damaging combos. How's that NOT flashy? xD
 
SweetSauceBoss

SweetSauceBoss

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Calintzsan said:
Lol. I love the way Sarah, Jacky and Pai strings combos together, and Akira looks just straight up painful.
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Yeah, when played well, those characters move so flawlessly and fluidly. Now Akira is stiff af but that's not to say he doesn't have flashy combos either. ;)
 
Calintzsan

Calintzsan

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Lulu said:
I like how Akira and Jacky can juggle with a simple low punch....
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Actually many veteran Sarah players with replays on Youtube have shown that you can throw in a low punch mid juggle to continue things. I've used it myself on several occasions. Works just fine. ;)

Here's an example from the Crazy man himself. xD

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Lulu

Lulu

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I did it once just to see if it was possible......
How many DoA characters have 12 (2) 14 low punches ?
 
Calintzsan

Calintzsan

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Lulu said:
I did it once just to see if it was possible......
How many DoA characters have 12 (2) 14 low punches ?
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I actually don't know to be honest. Most of my focus is on my main and no' one else. I know Hitomi, Momiji and Jacky pretty well, but not nearly well enough to start giving advice. lol
 
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