The Art Style and Graphics Discussion

[WisperG]

One more non-crotch comparison. XD

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Santa Mila can saw her own Christmas trees with these shoulders...

Odd. I never realized that the polygon count of visible parts of the body changed with different outfits.

 

[Tyaren]

Odd. I never realized that the polygon count of visible parts of the body changed with different outfits.

It's with several outfits and several characters visible. Two more examples for the shoulders:

And this following example makes hardly any sense...

Why has the nude model less polygons, when all attention lies on only that nude model?

 

[Tyaren]

Any racing game enthusiasts with us?
Here is a cool graphical comparison of the three biggest and most recent racing games Forza 6 (Xbone), Driveclub(PS4) and Project Cars(PC and consoles):

Forza 6 (though brand new) and especially Project Cars imho look a bit dated... Though Forza 6 runs at least in 60fps, which, as far as I know, DC and PC don't.

I do own Drive Club and I can confirm, it looks gorgeous at times. I stole these screenshots from Neogaf:

 

[Juihau]

http://www.dualshockers.com/2015/07/03/nissan-mistakes-driveclub-screenshots-for-real-life-pictures/

 

[Tyaren]

http://www.dualshockers.com/2015/07/03/nissan-mistakes-driveclub-screenshots-for-real-life-pictures/

Lol, that's a cool incident and free promotion for the game's outstanding visuals.

Also, here a really cool gif:

O:

 

[Goarmagon]

I just hope Gran Turismo gets rid of those PS2 era cars and tracks. I remember how floored I was when I saw GT3 back in 2001. I was so proud of myself when I bought my PS2.

 

[Chapstick]

The facial animations in the eyebrows, eyes, and mouths are subtle but they really add up to give a more human-like feel to the DOA characters

 

[Tyaren]

Oh, dear... The new King of Fighters XIV looks so bad (on a technical and artistic level):

Yes, that's supposed to be a PS4 game...
In motion it does imho look even worse. Here's the teaser trailer from the TGS Sony press conference:

The game would have better stayed in 2D sprites... :/

 

[Goarmagon]

It really does. KOF13 looked beautiful in comparison.

 

[Tyaren]

Also, anyone interested in how DOA6 character models are probably going to look like? This is a screen cap of Koei Tecmo's NIOH, exclusively for the PS4:

I'll call him "Bradman", because he has Bayman's face an Brad Wong's hair and beard. XD

And here's the full trailer, which does look graphically and artistically really nice:

 

[UpSideDownGRUNT]

Ni oh basically fills my wishes for a next gen onimusha/NG

 

[Russian-chiropractic19]

I could swear they're using bloodbornes engine

 

[Goarmagon]

Look its Bloody Brad.

 

[Tyaren]

I could swear they're using bloodbornes engine

Why, because everything is dark, wet and shiny? Or are you talking about the gameplay?
I'm really glad and pleased at the same time, to see, what Team Ninja can do graphically and stylistically with a true PS4 game. They seem to be back to their old form, when they had some of the best graphics in the industry.

 

[Chapstick]

@Kronin pointed this out a while ago but here's a gif of the detail with Rig's right eye that appears to have gotten some cut that severed a nerve because he can't open it all the way like his other eye. TN seemed to want to put a lot of identifying details on him compared to other characters.

 

[Kronin]

Yes, I loved this particular and imo was really a nice touch from them. Thanks for the gif =)

 

[Tyaren]

Getting back to the KOFXIV desaster... The sprites of XII and XIII looked so great, with such simplistic yet iconic character designs:

It's not that easy to port this same simplicity and style into 3D, yes, but as especially Guilty Gear Xrd but also Street Fighter V proved, it is possible.

Here's by the way a great, online art and animation gallery of King of Fighters XII and XIII:
http://kofaniv.snkplaymore.co.jp/english/info/15th_anniv/2d_dot/art/index.php

This site shows, how much time, thought and polish went into the sprites. You can't say that of the 3D graphics at all.

 

[Chapstick]

Honestly the first thing I thought when I saw the trailer was "Shittier Tekken" in terms of the way the characters looked.

 

[Tyaren]

Honestly the first thing I thought when I saw the trailer was "Shittier Tekken" in terms of the way the characters looked.

What I don't get, why do the characters look so shitty all of a sudden? These are experienced developers, they employ experienced artists. I know, SNK's team and budget is small. But all this has nothing to do with a sense of style, which they seem to have lost completely all of a sudden. This looks so amateurish, I'm actually offended. I did my bachelor thesis in character design and illustration and the character design of Japanese 2D fighters was among my inspirations and among the styles, that I commended and defended in my thesis. (Most European art colleges/universities look at everything resembling manga style with greatest disgust, whereas Western comic style is perfectly fine.)
I' can only dream of being able to work for my favorite Japanese developers in the future...and then I see a reputable developer dish out such shitty design, which even I could have done better with my limited experience and talent. :/

 

[KasumiLover]

I'm hoping that this isn't the final product, and perhaps they'll to improve the graphics over time. But this could be the final look....I'm not very impressed with it, it looks so bland and generic, like this is an urban Marvel vs Capcom 3. :-/