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DOA5LR "No Way" Kasumi's Reverse Teleport Technology.

Lulu

Lulu

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Introduction
So on some occasions Kasumi can Teleport right underneath her opponents and wind up behind them. When I first saw this I thought this was normal.... however some players think its a glitch. Well whatever it is, being able to pull it off consistently seems to be of value depending on different situations.

So lets see whats possible and Hope Team Ninja doesn't nerf it. ;)

Hyper Specific Setup Ups
So for these setups to work, the opponent must be Stagger Escaping at their fastest, and they must never hold.

(For :7::K:)
CL2

:4::H+K:
:3::P:
:P::P::7::K::6_:

:4::H+K:
:3::P::P:
:7::K::6_:

CL3

:H+K:
:P:
:4::P:
:P::P::7::K::6_:

:4::H+K:
:P+K:
:3::P::P:
:7::K::6_:

(CL3 for Pai Chan)
Backdash from Point Blank.
:8::P:
:P:
:6::P:
:P::P::7::K::6_:

And for the Critical Burst:
Freestep Backwards and try to Flash Kick your opponent with the very tip of Kasumi's toes before they the opponent falls down. I noticed that the opponent's Hurtboxalmost tripple's in Size when you perform a Critical Burst.

None of the above work on the Super Heavy Weights and the The Feather Weight classes.


Universal Juggles.
  • BT:P::P::P::2::K:
  • BT:P::P::6::P::K:
  • BT:P::P::6::P::6::K:
From my testing, these should work on every weight class without any Hyper Specific Requirements.

Teleportation Jutsu

Super Heavy Weight. (Tested on Rachel)
:bass::bayman::leon::rachel::cyborg:

:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL2

  • :K::K::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::P::2::K:
  • :K::K::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::6::P::K:
  • :K::K::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::6::P::6::K:
  • *:K::K::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::P:
  • *:K::K::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::K:
  • :K::K::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • :K::K::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::K:
  • *:K::K::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::7::K::5::P+K:
  • :K::K::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::6::K:
  • :K::K::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K:

:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL3

  • :K::K::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::P::2::K:
  • :K::K::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::6::P::K:
  • :K::K::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::6::P::6::K:
  • *:K::K::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::P:
  • *:K::K::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::K:
  • ***:K::K::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:
  • :K::K::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • :K::K::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::K:
  • ***:K::K::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::7::K::5::P+K:
  • :K::K::7::K::6_: BT :P::K::K::6::K:
  • :K::K::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::K:
  • :K::K::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::6::K:
  • :K::K::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • :K::K::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • :K::K::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K:
So since Kasumi Teleports much faster from :K::K::7::K::6_: its not necessary to try and do it from tip range, in fact trying to do it from tip range might cause the Reverse Teleport to fail. Be sure to also use :K::K::P: and :K::3::K: so as not to become too predictable.


Heavy Weight (:genfu:)

:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL2
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:

:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL2.
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:

:7::K::6_: Must Land on CL3

  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT :P::P::P::P::P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::K:
  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::6_::K::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P::4::P::K::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K::5::P+K:

:7::K::6_: Must Land on CL3

  • ****:7::K::6_: BT:P::P::P::P::P:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::P:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::6::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::6::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K::5::P+K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K:
I did manage to Teleport Behind Gen Fu using :K::K::7::K::6_: on a few occasions.... I'm not entirely sure how it works though.

Cruiser Weight (:helena:)

:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL2
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K::5::P+K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:

:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL2
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:

:7::K::6_: Must Land on CL3

  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::P::P::P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::K:
  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::6_::K::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K::5::P+K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K:

:7::K::6_: Must Land on CL3

  • ***:7::K::6_: BT:P::P::P::P::P:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::P:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::K:
  • ***:7::K::6_: :P::6::P::6_::K::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::6::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::6::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K::5::P+K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K:

Middle Weights (Tested on Christie)
:akira::bradwong::christie::ein::hayate::jacky::jannlee::La Mariposa::nyotengu::rig::hayabusa::tina::zack:

:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL2

  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K::5::P+K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K:

:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL2

  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K: (Except Christie)
Yes, Christie's Hurtbox does seem to be abit smaller than all her other middle weight friends and can cause an attack to miss.

:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL3

  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::P::P::P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT BT:P::6::P::P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::K:
  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_:BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT :P::K::K::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT BT:P::K::K::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K::5::P+K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K:

:7::K::6_: Must Land on CL3

  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::P::P::P::P:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT BT:P::6::P::P:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT :P::K::K::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::6::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::6::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K::5::P+K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:
So from this point onwards its actually much easier to get BT:P::P::P::P::P: to work from a critical burst than it is from a :P::P::7::K::6_: setup near the threshold because you have a greater degree of control over the range.... which is why setting it up from :P::P::7::K::6_: is marked with *** and setting it up from :7::K::6_: is only marked with *.


Welter Weights (Tested on Pai Chan)
:leifang::pai:

:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL2

  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K::5::P+K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K:

:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL2

  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::6::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K:

:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL3

  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::P::P::P:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::P:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT :P::K::K::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::6::K:
  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::7::K::5::P+K:
  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::7::K::6_:Hoshinpo :P:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::P::P::2::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::P::6::P::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::P::6::P::6::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::6::P::P:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::6::P::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::6::P::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:
  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::K::K:?
  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::K::K::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :K::K:?
  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :K::K::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K::5::P+K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K:

:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL3

  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::P::P::P::P:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::P::P::2::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::P::6::P::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::P::6::P::6::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::P:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT :P::K::K::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::6::K:
  • ***:7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::7::K::5::P+K:
  • ***:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::P::P::2::K:
  • ***:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::P::6::P::K:
  • ***:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::P::6::P::6::K:
  • ***:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::K::K:?
  • ***:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::K::K::6::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::6::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • ***:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :K::K:?
  • ***:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :K::K::6::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K::5::P+K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:
Welcome to the Welter Weights, where you no longer have to choose between BT:2::P: and BT :P:.... as long as you can get the range right, you can have both. ;). This is also where dumb luck or expert precision will allow to get the last hit in BT:P::K::K::7::K::6_: to connect. pulling that off can cause the damage to go just over a 100 points and opens up some strong options from her Hoshinpo stance.


Light Weights (Tested on Kasumi)
:ayane::honoka::kasumi::marierose::phase4:

:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL2

  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT :P::K::K:?
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::6::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K::5::P+K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K:

:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL2

  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT :P::K::K:?
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::6::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::6::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K::5::P+K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K:

:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL3

  • *** :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::P::P::P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT :P::K::K::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::6::K:
  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::7::K::5::P+K:
  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::7::K::6_:Hoshinpo :P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::P::P::2::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::P::6::P::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::P::6::P::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::6::P::P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::6::P::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::6::P::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::K::K:?
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::K::K::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :K::K:?
  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :K::K::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K::5::P+K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:

:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL3

  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::P::P::P::P:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::P:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT :P::K::K::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::6::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::P::P::2::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::P::6::P::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::P::6::P::6::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::6::P::P:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::6::P::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::6::P::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::K::K:?
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::K::K::6::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::6::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • ***:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :K::K:?
  • ***:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :K::K::6::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K::5::P+K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:

Super Light Weights (Tested on Hitomi)
:eliot::hitomi::kokoro::mila::momiji::sarah:

:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL2

  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT :P::K::K:?
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::6::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K::5::P+K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K:


:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL2

  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT :P::K::K:?
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::6::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::6::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K::5::P+K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K:

:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL3

  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::P::P::P:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::P:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT :P::K::K::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::6::K:
  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::7::K::5::P+K:
  • ***:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::7::K::6_:Hoshinpo :P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::P::P::2::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::P::6::P::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::P::6::P::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::6::P::P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_:BT:2::P: :P::6::P::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::6::P::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::K::K:?
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::K::K::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :K::K:?
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :K::K::6::K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K::5::P+K:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • :P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K:
  • *:P::P::7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:


:7::K::6_: MUST LAND ON CL3

  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::P::P::P::P:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::P:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::6::P::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::P::7::K::5::P+K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT :P::K::K::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::6::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::7::K::5::P+K:
  • **:7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::7::K::6_:Hoshinpo :P:
  • ****:7::K::6_: BT:P::K::K::7::K::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::P::P::2::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::P::6::P::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::P::6::P::6::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::P::7::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::6::P::P:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::6::P::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::6::P::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::K::K:?
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P::K::K::6::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :6::P::6::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :4::P::K::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :K::K:?
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :K::K::6::K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :7::K::5::P+K:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::P:
  • :7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::K:
  • *:7::K::6_: BT:2::P: :P+K::6_:Hoshinpo :K::K:
Featherweight (:alpha152:)

I actually haven't done any of these yet.

Conclusion
I'm going to hold off on any conclusions untill I'm sure I got everything right.
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Lulu

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I'm going to start with the important bits..... then I'l add all the other stuff later.

Edit: God Damnit !!! I was doing Helena's section when finger slipped on to the Back Key !!!! Now I have to do it all over again......

Ladies and gentlemen.... I hate touch screen smart phones

Anyway while I'm at it... I was wondering if I should exclude all the Strings that would work on every single character and place them in a different section.....

This would make it easier to spot what's genuinely different for each weight class.

Well.... would you guys like that ?
 
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Lulu said:
I'm going to start with the important bits..... then I'l add all the other stuff later.

Edit: God Damnit !!! I was doing Helena's section when finger slipped on to the Back Key !!!! Now I have to do it all over again......

Ladies and gentlemen.... I hate touch screen smart phones

Anyway while I'm at it... I was wondering if I should exclude all the Strings that would work on every single character and place them in a different section.....

This would make it easier to spot what's genuinely different for each weight class.

Well.... would you guys like that ?
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Yes!! I love this^-^
 
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KasumiLover69 said:
Yes!! I love this^-^
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LoL... since you answered first, consider your wish granted !!!

Edit: actually first all write down everything and then I'l remove the Universal strings.... because some of them are sort of tricky.

Basicly the most important one is BT:P::P::6::P::K: and its younger and sexier sibling, BT:P::P::6::P::6::K:. I haven't encountered a scenario where either of those strings did not work.... the former does more damage but the latter does a hard knockdown and triggers floor dangeezones.......:P::P::P::2::K: also always works but I never tested that one as rigorously.

Edit2:
Okay so my phone can't keep up.... I'm gonna do the rest of these on my laptop.....
God Damn you Google Chrome Android Edition !!!! :mad:
 
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Don't worry.... I'l fix all the notations eventually..... I just want to upload everything at once first

Edit: for anybody wondeting what those aterisks's are for..... those extremely specific juggles.... the more stars you see..... the more impractical they are... with one being viable and four being bat shit insane !

You can attempt them using the "Hyper Specific Setups at the top..... I compiled those with the stagger escape set to fastest and Free Canceling for effecient string manipulation...... they wouldn't work otherwise.
 
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Lulu said:
The good news is al tge important stuff is now up there..... everything I add and change at this point is purely for Flavour and convenience.

BTW, The Phase 4 guide is coming together nicely ;)
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Thank you!:-D I plan on continuing it tomorrow when I have no work to do
 
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So for some insane reason its excruciatingly difficult to Teleport Behind Alpha-152 especially after a critical burst...... But it isn't impossible.
now this might sound crazy but believe it or not, after you teleport you can increase the likelihood of wounding up behind her by Crouching Walking after Kasumi recovers from her Hoshinpo Crouch Dash..... Unfortunately I don't have the execution prowess and sense of timing to pull this off for reliable testing.... so if anyone is up to it.... Go For It !!! then share your technology. ;)
 
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That's a lot of work put together in this thread. Nicely done, Lulu! I'm sure Kasumi players can put these setups to good use. ;)
 
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Lulu said:
LoL.... the things I do out of boredom.
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I'm sure a lot of people appreciate the things you do out of boredom. :)

Also these setups might work well as a mindgame trick. A lot of people probably won't see the cross-up coming so they have to re-adjust their inputs from being put on the other player's side.
 
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KING JAIMY said:
I'm sure a lot of people appreciate the things you do out of boredom. :)

Also these setups might work well as a mindgame trick. A lot of people probably won't see the cross-up coming so they have to re-adjust their inputs from being put on the other player's side.
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Thats actually I good idea.... because I've been hit by a setup that required me to tech in the opposite direction.... I think it was by Ayane.... she jumped over me mid juggle and I wound teching forward into a Ground Attack because I lost my sense of direction for a moment.

Kasumi and Phase 4 are lucky...... they have i12 Frame Launchers.
 
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Lulu said:
Thats actually I good idea.... because I've been hit by a setup that required me to tech in the opposite direction.... I think it was by Ayane.... she jumped over me mid juggle and I wound teching forward into a Ground Attack because I lost my sense of direction for a moment.

Kasumi and Phase 4 are lucky...... they have i12 Frame Launchers.
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Yeah the cross-ups can really mess with your brain sometimes. The ninjas are really good at creating those situations.

Also Kasumi and Phase 4 are not the only ones with 12 frame launchers. Rig also has one, and that's a mid kick!
 
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KING JAIMY said:
Yeah the cross-ups can really mess with your brain sometimes. The ninjas are really good at creating those situations.

Also Kasumi and Phase 4 are not the only ones with 12 frame launchers. Rig also has one, and that's a mid kick!
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Wow.... him too.... lol theres no Stagger Escaping that one.

Sometimes I wonder if those characters are too strong.
 
KING JAIMY

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Lulu said:
Wow.... him too.... lol theres no Stagger Escaping that one.

Sometimes I wonder if those characters are too strong.
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I think all of those characters are fine. Phase 4 might be somewhat underpowered, but then again look at what Mr. Kwiggle can do with her. Phase 4 hits like a truck, damage-wise.

In the end the mindgame is what matters in my opinion.
 
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KING JAIMY said:
I think all of those characters are fine. Phase 4 might be somewhat underpowered, but then again look at what Mr. Kwiggle can do with her. Phase 4 hits like a truck, damage-wise.

In the end the mindgame is what matters in my opinion.
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Yup, I couldn't agree more:) Phase isn't as versatile as the real Kasumi, but once you start teleporting and baiting your opponent, her mind games are terrifying 0_0
 
KING JAIMY

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KasumiLover69 said:
Yup, I couldn't agree more:) Phase isn't as versatile as the real Kasumi, but once you start teleporting and baiting your opponent, her mind games are terrifying 0_0
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If you are in stun against Phase 4, you are in trouble. Teleport into launch --> OUCH! Teleport into hi-counter 33T --> OUCH! Teleport into 236T with combo follow-ups --> OUCH! Her stun game is really strong, although Kasumi's is as well.
 
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KING JAIMY said:
I think all of those characters are fine. Phase 4 might be somewhat underpowered, but then again look at what Mr. Kwiggle can do with her. Phase 4 hits like a truck, damage-wise.

In the end the mindgame is what matters in my opinion.
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I think DoA Excells in that department. I wish I could play Phase 4......just to satisfy my curiosity.

Is playing her like Flash Sword Kicking everything ?
 
KING JAIMY

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Lulu said:
I think DoA Excells in that department. I wish I could play Phase 4......just to satisfy my curiosity.

Is playing her like Flash Sword Kicking everything ?
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If I recall correctly you have a 2 frame window to connect each teleport, although some are more annoying than others. From my personal experiences I find 7K into a teleport way more annoying than 4K into a teleport, for example. By comparison you only have 1 frame to connect the Flash Sword Kick or Akira's knee.

Oops, I see we're going off-topic now. Sorry, my fault! xD
 
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