The Art Style and Graphics Discussion

KasumiLover

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I liked lili's jeans outfit, but not the lolita Halloween costume....that was so trashy. Possibly one of the worst outfits in the game, plus it clips like crazy.. And lili ugly?? 0_0 She looked great imo, but then again I'm in love with the girl XD
 

Juihau

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I actually think Lili and Xiaoyu made the transition to SFIV's art style a lot better than most of the other characters, including the actual SF characters...
 

Tyaren

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Did some more work (it really is! XD) in Driveclub's photo mode. Man, this game is looking SO good:

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The last batch of pics is from the new Scotland city track. They didn't specify that this is supposed to be Edinburgh @Jadeinchains, but I am pretty sure it is judging from it's layout and look. I have to admitt though that the city looks a bit sterile and lifeless and that's why I turned on the rain, thunderstorm and night time. The graphic engine is better suited to perfectly render stunning landscapes.
 

Jadeinchains

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Did some more work (it really is! XD) in Driveclub's photo mode. Man, this game is looking SO good:

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The last batch of pics is from the new Scotland city track. They didn't specify that this is supposed to be Edinburgh @Jadeinchains, but I am pretty sure it is judging from it's layout and look. I have to admitt though that the city looks a bit sterile and lifeless and that's why I turned on the rain, thunderstorm and night time. The graphic engine is better suited to perfectly render stunning landscapes.

I'm always so amazed by just how gorgeous racing games are. To the point of water droplet's on the windshield. And just how good there graphics are. I guess it helps that they don't have massive amounts to work on.

And yeah I'm pretty sure its Edinburgh as well.
 

Tyaren

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Amazing shots @DontForkWitMe! Why put them all in spoilers? D:
If games all would achieve this graphical performance I wouldn't even complain anymore if the level stayed exactly like this.
 

Tyaren

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ive never understood why fighters can't achieve top level graphics. i cant think of another genre that has less assets.

I also don't get it... :/ In PS1 and PS2 era they were the prettiest games out there. I have two, no, actually three theories though:

1) Japanese developers mostly don't seem to care for as pretty games as Western developers do and most fighters are Japanese... Western fighters, such as MKX and Killer Instinct, do actually look pretty good. At least technically. The art style just isn't my cup of tea...

2) Smooth online data transfer as well as the necessitty to run fighting games in 1080p with solid 60fps might tax PS4 and Xbone just too much.

3) More of a general problem not just with fighters: Games aren't optimized just for consoles anymore. As always games are developed on a PC but unlike in the past the port to consoles isn't the highest or lone priority anymore because they will also sell a much prettier PC version anyway.

Then we get games looking like this (please view in full size for the biggest shock value):

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Jadeinchains

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They look really cool Tyaren! These look like they could fit right into a fighting game. And I'm always impressed by how you create characters. Just based on appearances I'd be maining Kazue Ando.

And is Hideki Johnson's casual outfit what inspired Hayates casual contest design?
 
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Tyaren

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They look really cool Tyaren! These look like they could fit right into a fighting game. And I'm always impressed by how you create characters. Just based on appearances I'd be maining Kazue Ando.

And is Hideki Johnson's casual outfit what inspired Hayates casual contest design?

Thanks. :) Kazue seems to be one of the favorites whenever I showed designs on my artist page. But she was one of the most difficult to design outfits for actually. I'm still not fully content with her fighter and casual outfits and she's also the only character that doesn't follow some sort of general color scheme. I'd call her overall style confident, sporty, tomboyish and show-offy in regards to her curves. XD I hope that's not the only reason so many like her.

No, the other way around actually, when I scrapped my costume idea for Ein (I also never submitted it to one of the contests) I thought why not give it to one of my own characters. ;) It suits Hideki's personality perfectly. He's laid back, likes to dress in black and dark grey and also quite sexy, like Ein. XD
 
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Jadeinchains

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Thanks. :) Kazue seems to be one of the favorites whenever I showed designs on my artist page. But she was one of the most difficult to design outfits for actually. I'm still not fully content with her fighter and casual outfits and she's also the only character that doesn't follow some sort of general color scheme. I'd call her overall style confident, sporty, tomboyish and show-offy in regards to her curves. XD I hope that's not the only reason so many like her.

No, the other way around actually, when I scrapped my costume idea for Ein (I also never submitted it to one of the contests) I thought why not give it to one of my own characters. ;) It suits Hideki's personality perfectly. He's laid back, likes to dress in black and dark grey and also quite sexy, like Ein. XD

Well you can be sure that that's not why I'm drawn towards Kazue. If anything its her awesome formal wear and her eyepatch works well to set her apart from the rest. I'm surprised you never submitted your design to the contest that one with momiji in the turtleneck was really good.
 

Argentus

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@Tyaren

In my opinion, everyone looks best in their fighter outfits except Kazue who I think should have her Formal outfit as her default :). It looks amazing.


Not seeing Nyo in that last kid though.

Also the blonde boy, I think should have his formal hair on the other outfits as well. The "forward spiky hair" reminds me of other videogame characters too much.
 

Tyaren

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@Tyaren
In my opinion, everyone looks best in their fighter outfits except Kazue who I think should have her Formal outfit as her default :). It looks amazing.
Not seeing Nyo in that last kid though.

Thank you! :)
Oh, when I first uploaded Kaoru with his final look, several were like: "Oh, genderbent Nyo! *__*" I can totally see why they would think so. XD He's also supposed be quite sadistic behind his calm and nice facade. What I back then wrote about his character:

"Kaoru Fujiwara, 17 years old and captain of the Aikido Club, has a very poor eyesight without glasses or contacts and so he mostly fights with covered eyes, completely relying on his other senses. He always appears to be very calm and gentle, but he is actually a bit of a sadist. What he likes most about fighting, is to hear and feel the joints of his opponents crack under is hands."

I was even contemplating to change his design after Nyotengu's announcement...
 

Jadeinchains

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I can see the possible resemblance now that you mention it but he looks cool so its good you left him the way he was originally designed.
 

Argentus

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Thank you! :)
Oh, when I first uploaded Kaoru with his final look, several were like: "Oh, genderbent Nyo! *__*" I can totally see why they would think so. XD He's also supposed be quite sadistic behind his calm and nice facade. I was even contemplating to change his design after Nyotengu's announcement...
Lol I know the feeling. I wound up redesigning a few when people said what they thought they looked like.

Like one "oh its king Bradley"

Um*overhauls the the design* how about now?

"Oh cool its kid rock!"

GODDAMNIT.
 

KwonJigglypuff

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Love the new costumes @Tyaren ! They all look different and appealing. What I really like is that they are not stereotypical!

I would personally add a female sensei, very feminine but with a lot of authority, someone people respect and fear at the same time. That's just an idea.
 

Tyaren

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Love the new costumes @Tyaren ! They all look different and appealing. What I really like is that they are not stereotypical!

I would personally add a female sensei, very feminine but with a lot of authority, someone people respect and fear at the same time. That's just an idea.

Thank you! :D The teacher idea is actually pretty good and I had similar ideas...but I unfortunately don't really have much time for all of that. :(
 

Tyaren

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Here are some pics that I did of Street Fighter 5, which was released just today:

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The game looks very rough overall. I'm very disappointed by that. :( If this game wasn't Street Fighter and wasn't such a niche game and hadn't such a devoted fan crowd, there would have been a huge uproar regarding the graphical downgrade, similar to the drama about Watchdogs or The Witcher 3. The game looks nothing like the promo screenshots and videos, at least not on PS4. The console version has most noticably big problems with shadow dithering on the characters. It is imho the ugliest effect that I have ever seen in a video game. It looks even worse in motion and isn't as visible here. I also -as usual- have only taken pics that make the game look best. Can't help myself. ;)

Here are two pics that show how incredibly rough it can look like on PS4:

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