Helena's needed improvements

Pupi18

Well-Known Member
Did they buff the speed on that? Thinking of it did they give her a 10 frame jab finally?

Is Helena finished yet or are they still working on the game?

I think the game might be going gold or its already gold so I doubt there would be any more changes.
 

TRI Mike

Well-Known Member
I'm actually considering him a lot too. Those 9-frame palms, parries and refloats sure look scary.

In fact, there are like 10 characters I want to seriously give an opportunity too. I guess this is a sign of the game being good.
 

DrDogg

Well-Known Member
Mila is my new main, Rig is my new secondary, Lisa is my casual/warm-up character and Helena is my "I don't care if I lose my win streak because my character isn't as good as your ninja" character.
 

PhoenixVFIRE

Well-Known Member
Mila is my new main, Rig is my new secondary, Lisa is my casual/warm-up character and Helena is my "I don't care if I lose my win streak because my character isn't as good as your ninja" character.
lol, nice! So, I'm assuming Mila is VERY good too like Rig or you just realllllllllly like her.
 

Dravidian

Active Member
Wait...do we have Mila vids already? [checks all the places he knows]

EDIT:nope just you guys giving me doa5 blue balls. Guess I'll doax off...
 

TRI Mike

Well-Known Member
Most reveal trailers for the game have been "announced" through a famitsu scan or someone just stating the trailer is coming and nothing like that has happened since the two videos with Lisa fighting that new blonde girl who looks like Hele. So don't expect Mila to be officially shown until next Thursday at best.

I'm a bit worried because after counting, I'm actually interested in eight characters without including Mila, Pai and Fu which haven't been seen yet. My friends who play the most with me already decided one on Bayman/Sarah and the other on Bass/Hitomi so they'll probably get used to their characters faster than I.

I'm 100% sure I'll main Jann Lee but I like to have two and right now, that second spot is most likely reserved for Tina, but Rig, Eliot, Busa, Kokoro, Fang and Hele are keeping me interested as well...

I don't know what to do with my life.
 

Omegan Eckhart

Well-Known Member
Most reveal trailers for the game have been "announced" through a famitsu scan or someone just stating the trailer is coming and nothing like that has happened since the two videos with Lisa fighting that new blonde girl who looks like Hele.

Imagine if that wasn't actually Helena and TN was just trolling us haha
 

Riizch

Member
For what it's worth, I'm pretty crap at DOA, so if any of you guys fight against me online, you can use Helena regardless of her tier and make her look invincible...
 

Project Bokuho

Lady Helena's Pet
Premium Donor
I never really bothered with Helena before DOA4, but once DOA4 was released, she quickly became one of my mains. When I then went back to DOA3 and DOA2 Ultimate, I found that I just couldn't play her in the same way and didn't enjoy the experience at all.
Honestly, i didn't really have much trouble with Helena in DOA2U and DOA3.
I played just fine with her for those games.
If i can do that, most likely i will be fine in DOA5, even with the nerf bat.
 

Riizch

Member
Honestly, i didn't really have much trouble with Helena in DOA2U and DOA3.
I played just fine with her for those games.
If i can do that, most likely i will be fine in DOA5, even with the nerf bat.

It wasn't so much that I couldn't play with her...I just couldn't play with her in the same way, and I found that I didn't enjoy it as much. For me, the enjoyment of fighting is a different thing to the ability. I've always been better with some characters than others, but don't particularly enjoy using them as much. As a very base example, it's kind of like fighting with a hugely overpowered, unlockable boss character - gets the results, but not necessarily much fun.

I guess what I'm trying to say, is that regardless of how weak or powerful Helena turns out to be, there's every chance that I will enjoy playing with her, and because I'm not exactly a tournament fighter (read: very casual), it won't make a huge amount of difference to me. I just hope that I can enjoy fighting with her in the same way that I did with DOA4.
 

Omegan Eckhart

Well-Known Member
Honestly, i didn't really have much trouble with Helena in DOA2U and DOA3.
I played just fine with her for those games.
If i can do that, most likely i will be fine in DOA5, even with the nerf bat.

This is slightly different, Helena is the only character who has been made worse than her DOA4 counter part, she has NO new tools to play with. Even Busa has has been buffed considerably with exception to his ability to crush mid's and his :8::K: being nerfed.

The sad part is whilst other characters will be landing sit down stuns and CB's we won't be and if we do it will be a struggle at best. With our CB and our sit down stuns being all mid punches we will be reduced to grabbing a lot. I want legitimate mix up tools not just mix ups between mid punches or grabs.

As a Helena player you are likely to struggle more now than you did back then. I'm sure she will be fun as she is Helena but watching other characters use tools that have been denied to you might get a bit frustrating after a while.
 

TRI Mike

Well-Known Member
I think that even without PP2KP she could use 236PKP and 66KPP as relatively good juggles. The thing is that the second required insane launch height in DOA4. I wonder if Bryan can tell us how many new strings she got. It seems several 3-in-1s are there.
 

DrDogg

Well-Known Member
She doesn't have that much new stuff. Off the top of my head I count maybe 5 or 6 new attacks/strings.
 
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