The Nier: Automata Thread

DestructionBomb

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A couple of things, also @DestructionBomb:
First of all, since I am an artist and designer (I have an actual uni degree) when I talk about graphics/visuals of a game I am foremost talking about the art and design aspect of it and to a lesser extent of the pure technical aspect. There's nothing wrong about loving video games for their beautiful art. Video games are art. A well done execution of this art needs good tech, so there is a mutual relation to these two aspects of graphics/visuals.
Secondly, graphics are the video in video game. It's in the name and definition. Without graphics no video game.
If some people knew a bit of game creation, they knew that the visual aspect of a video game is in fact equally import to the gameplay aspect of a game and it is in fact the visuals, that developers, artists and designers usually spend the most time, money and effort on when creating a game.
I seriously have to shake my head at people who don't realize this. Seriously, it's right in front of our eyes when we play. We can't play anything at all without it.
Last but not least, Nier Automata is definitely not a AAA game:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AAA_(video_game_industry)
AAA games are games with a very high production value, development costs and promotion. Few games receive this enorm attention, trust and push from publishers. AAA games are synonymous to the term blockbuster in the movie industry.
Nier, even if it is a great game, but that matters not in this classification, is not a AAA game. Not by a mile. The fact that it is a JRPG, a niche genre, already almost disqualifies it. The only two AAA JRPGs to release in recent years were Final Fantasy XV, which was a huge money dump for a decade, and Pokemon Sun/Moon, mostly for the promotion part.
Square Enix's current and upcoming AAA games are considered:
-Final Fantasy XV
-Kingdom Hearts III
-FFVII Remake
-Dragon Quest XI
-Tomb Raider
-Hitman
-Deus Ex
If you want to read up on this and gather some information:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/396...iple-aaa-releases-boost-profits-triple-digits
https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/02/05/square-enix-major-change-disney-marvel/

When someone provides the patronizing act and using the scapegoat of having a degree to determining a game's true value simply because you work in an environment and somehow go full throttle of indoctrination based on your beliefs with gaming? Shit, I might as well start tagging Rikuto on your posts but then he'd go on all day or nothing happens at all since people would go way off topic in the Nier thread simply because people are hilariously oblivious to these sort of things.

First off, gaming applies to all types of appeal on type of development, team decisions, working with what they have, feedback on the consumers who purchase these games, as well as general competition to gaming society that involves gaming.

Where did I said Nier is a triple AAA titled game? go back up there and read those posts again or do you skim through posts like you magically ooze of correction material to these discussions? For Horizon is a AAA titled game. KasumiLover response For Horizon in a Nier thread.

Graphics is keeping up with the times of modern technology. This does not apply solely to gaming. We can go on all day with this but you might as well send it as a PM or unless you are the type who believes they can apply logic over logic. This isn't your typical Argentus post so you might as well take the back seat if you truly believe things will go far for you by tossing in Wiki links on definition that's clearly obvious to the situation at hand here.
 
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Brute

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Should I rename this thread "Gripe About Your Issues with Other Users," because it looks more like a free-for-all.

Also I don't agree with any of you on any of the subjective points you've made for the past two days regarding this game. Bully me.
 
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KasumiLover

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Should I rename this thread "Gripe About Your Issues with Other Users," because it looks more like a free-for-all than a Nier thread.

Also I don't agree with any of you on any of the points you've made for the past two days regarding this game. Bully me.
So you don't agree on the release dates and information I provided and screenshoted? XD

I'm excited for this, next to P5 and Dragon Quest Heroes 2 AND T7, this is something I'm really looking forward to!! The artwork in Sankaku Complex and trailers have really gotten me hype beyond belief!!
 

Project Bokuho

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I might not be able to get this on day one it seems :(

Ummmmm, no I was not >.> I thought he was subbing you playfully since you love graphics which I completely understand as I do as well, so I playfully tagged you is all, PB does it all the time to Grunt and Force does it all the time to me, I didn't mean anything by it xD my opinion of you is completely different than what others think and my opinion of you is positive, plus I don't throw shade XD, didn't you see how I @ed you, I'm that way when I call out people. I'm kinda more open when I'm coming for someone, and I wasn't coming for you at all...

Like I said the graphics look amazing but the gameplay doesn't really get me at this point, I find it more interesting to watch and see screenshots from others than to actually play it, but hopefully whenever I get extra money I can at least try it for myself.
Leave me out of this lmao
 

KasumiLover

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I might not be able to get this on day one it seems :(


Leave me out of this lmao
Out of what?? XD Nothing happened, Tyaren PMed me and we got it hammered out, he and I are unbothered.

And you better get T7 day one XD Me and Lili/Anna want you to come over online so we can talk to ya real close and see whether you think the Dragon's Nest is a great place to fight:cool:
 

Project Bokuho

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You think incorrectly.
What's wrong with 2B?


Out of what?? XD Nothing happened, Tyaren PMed me and we got it hammered out, he and I are unbothered.

And you better get T7 day one XD Me and Lili/Anna want you to come over online so we can talk to ya real close and see whether you think the Dragon's Nest is a great place to fight:cool:
Of course I'm getting T7 on day-one lol
 

KasumiLover

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You think incorrectly.
:-O Have you not seen it Brute???
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That's one hot piece of assssss~ I hear they also gonna do DLC so I'm hoping for a leotard and boot costume, a costume that gives 2B a hime cut and eyepatch and maybe something for 9S since I imagine he'll get something since you can use him
 

DestructionBomb

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A good protagonist doesn't always revolve around a sexy body though. It's more or less fan service really. You could be skinny like a twig or complete oddball and turn out to be one of the best characters in a game.

Out of what?? XD Nothing happened, Tyaren PMed me and we got it hammered out, he and I are unbothered.

Ah so finally that hilarious topic is over? well mods was going to end it either way.

On topic, someone on my list of NY players got the game and may end up streaming it. I likely won't watch due to spoilers.
 

GreatDarkHero

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You think incorrectly.
Okay. Most people. Better?

EDIT:
@DestructionBomb You made several good points on your last few posts. Especially the last. Even though, I've only played the demo weeks ago, I am curious as to what else the player would capable of as far as the combat systems are concerned. I would suspect that this game is also good for speedrunning. Speedrunners may have a good time with this one.
 

Brute

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What's wrong with 2B?
My primary objection is to the assumption that "Nier: Automata is a cool game."
As for 2B, I don't care much for sexualization in video games (surprise) and aside from that alleged appeal she's largely boring. Keep in mind that I've seen most of this game's story on YT since I didn't care about getting it spoiled. There are actually some interesting conceptual ideas, but 2B as a character is not compelling at all (in my subjective opinion). I also don't care for her visual design, so really the question where I'm concerned is "What's right with 2B?" and my response is: "Nothing, really."

I have more to say on the subject, but I don't want to give too many spoilers. I will say that 2B is not the most interesting character in the game, though.
 

GreatDarkHero

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Just keep in mind that I managed to play the demo and a got decent impression from it, also basing this on what I am hearing from (decent) reviewers and others who played the game. The only reason why I wouldn't know much about the story or 2B's character is because I did not bother to watch videos of it and would rather just wait and see the rest of the game for myself. Those are the reasons I made the assumption that all (or most) people would like the game. I was wrong. Oops. There was no ill intent behind anything I said.

EDIT.

Typing on a phone gets a bit odd at times.
 
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DestructionBomb

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Okay. Most people. Better?

EDIT:
@DestructionBomb You made several good points on your last few posts. Especially the last. Even though, I've only played the demo weeks ago, I am curious as to what else the player would capable of as far as the combat systems are concerned. I would suspect that this game is also good for speedrunning. Speedrunners may have a good time with this one.

Yeah I can see the game going heavy on speedrunners or no damage hard difficulty runs. I like the game simply because Platinum Games made it and the soundtrack is kickass, plus I read the first one to see if it's any connection to the second (never played the first one) so hopefully story is good to boot as well.
 

KasumiLover

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I mainly like her presentation, she's hot and she has a dark vibe which I love. Instabuy for me☆
 

David Gregg

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Gah so much I want to discuss about the characters and the story but I can't. DX Let's just say it follows in line with previous YT games. Don't take characters at face value.
 

KasumiLover

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I'll be ready to discuss in a just a few days :-D I went to the store earlier and preordered...man the excitement is too much right now...!! ^_^
 

David Gregg

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Here's by the way a great in-depth review of Nier: Automata:


This is a great review I agree with him on most of his points. The framerate stutter like I said before is there. Not enough to break the game but noticeable. And the soundtrack truly is amazing btw. :)

I'll be ready to discuss in a just a few days :-D I went to the store earlier and preordered...man the excitement is too much right now...!! ^_^

Great hope you enjoy it. :D All I have to say is make sure to do the side quests! They are actually important in this game and well varied. The rewards are great as well.
 
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