Opinion: Top Players! (And those who feel like I do...)
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Berzerk!
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The original post is essentially right... we need to share info, not sandbag.
More people with more knowledge means better players
Better players means better representation of the game.
Not all of us have had time to put together videos or text guides, but check the character sections, there is good information there. But players who are in a position to share knowledge and do not, need to realise that it's better to educate the community. Does it make your opponents better? Yes. This is a good thing. Then we will all play at a higher standard.
More people with more knowledge means better players
Better players means better representation of the game.
Not all of us have had time to put together videos or text guides, but check the character sections, there is good information there. But players who are in a position to share knowledge and do not, need to realise that it's better to educate the community. Does it make your opponents better? Yes. This is a good thing. Then we will all play at a higher standard.
Chaos
Well-Known Member
Yes, definitely
care to bring up some examples of this?
^The future of doa don't know english. XD
DriftSlave
Active Member
Was that last line really necessary?
Saber
Well-Known Member
Main problem is that the top players aren't sandbagging. You can figure out their playstyle by watching them play in tournaments, or just look up tournament videos online and see how they play the game and adapt to their opponent.
Learning to read your opponent (or yomi) is something you can't really teach someone. It's something you pick up as you gain more experience. Hell, my yomi is limited to what mix-ups someone tries to pull on me, and it's not on the level where I can hold on reaction or something. After all, it's part of the learning process.
If someone just spells it out for you, what's the point of doing it yourself?
It's not the top players' job to give support to new players. It's nice if they do, but if you don't ask, they won't tell. And with the mindset that they're playing the game competitively, of course they would want to keep certain tricks of the trade to themselves. It's natural, and there's nothing wrong with it, and it's certainly not why DOA5 'suffers'.
Learning to read your opponent (or yomi) is something you can't really teach someone. It's something you pick up as you gain more experience. Hell, my yomi is limited to what mix-ups someone tries to pull on me, and it's not on the level where I can hold on reaction or something. After all, it's part of the learning process.
If someone just spells it out for you, what's the point of doing it yourself?
It's not the top players' job to give support to new players. It's nice if they do, but if you don't ask, they won't tell. And with the mindset that they're playing the game competitively, of course they would want to keep certain tricks of the trade to themselves. It's natural, and there's nothing wrong with it, and it's certainly not why DOA5 'suffers'.
hounddog75
Member
Is anyone on xbox live to get in matches?
hounddog75
Member
what is ok?
hounddog75
Member
I'm at that whole work place, I will accept it when I get home tonight. Sorry I should have been more clear I work during the day will be home around 7pm est.
Well I'm still transitioning from the UK to Saudi .. haven't really settled down yet.
But, I made this:
I agree with this. There are people out there that hate online just as much as top players. I'm trying to get a scene here too &hate online with a passion I'm also willing to help if people are willing to listen to me & do what it takes. I help with Kasumi, Ayane, & I'm starting to understand Kokoro more and more.
But I also expect people to try to learn a few things own their own as well. I'm tolerant as long as people try but if you're 1 of those people who sandbag, looking for answers to just "unfold" or "hand you things on a silver platter", or complain about something refusing to listen, then I don't waste my time. Because I too am learning more things about the game.
Murakame
Active Member
I've no problem showing beginners the ropes with Kasumi or sharing Hayate tips and tech with someone but I don't want to feel like I'm wasting my time. Once a player learns the basics of a character it is on them to discover how they will utilize what they have learned. Looking at match videos to get an idea of how to play is great but if you mimic someone's style then it defeats the purpose of learning a character because all you will be doing is throwing out moves without understanding why you use them or when you have to use them. The wiki would be a great tool to help people with this but If you look at the wiki section for most characters it is a joke.The wiki should be a tool that contains the most up to date information because this game has been patched many times so going into certain topics looking at posts from start to finish may provide unnecessary outdated information.
Also players shouldn't just sit around and wait for new tech to be discovered. They should be playing an active role in discovering new tech. Relying solely on the top players causes a characters development to become stagnant especially since most of them won't give any information unless it is asked for. With more heads working on tech a character becomes stronger and deadlier at a faster rate. Who knows you may find something which gives someone else an idea for even better tech.
As for keeping tech a secret I disagree with that. What validity is there in competition if you steamroll everybody? What is that win supposed to prove? I don't know about you guys but I like to play against players that are the same level as me or higher. Obviously the more educated the opponent is about my character the harder it is for me to win thus making a victory that much more satisfying. Also, if people start figuring out how to deal with tech, isn't that the time you look and say "It's about time for me to come up with something better?" Competition encourages growth and if you want to hide tech to increase your chances of winning then I'm sorry but you are a coward. I understand why it's done and it makes sense to me but it doesn't change the cowardice of that action.
Also players shouldn't just sit around and wait for new tech to be discovered. They should be playing an active role in discovering new tech. Relying solely on the top players causes a characters development to become stagnant especially since most of them won't give any information unless it is asked for. With more heads working on tech a character becomes stronger and deadlier at a faster rate. Who knows you may find something which gives someone else an idea for even better tech.
As for keeping tech a secret I disagree with that. What validity is there in competition if you steamroll everybody? What is that win supposed to prove? I don't know about you guys but I like to play against players that are the same level as me or higher. Obviously the more educated the opponent is about my character the harder it is for me to win thus making a victory that much more satisfying. Also, if people start figuring out how to deal with tech, isn't that the time you look and say "It's about time for me to come up with something better?" Competition encourages growth and if you want to hide tech to increase your chances of winning then I'm sorry but you are a coward. I understand why it's done and it makes sense to me but it doesn't change the cowardice of that action.